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Table Games Missing a Progressive Due to NOT Placing the Sucker-Bet

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by topcard, Jan 7, 2015.

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  1. topcard

    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    OK...I just got back on Monday... and I have to share this...

    I was playing 3-card at Gold Coast... they have the mini-royal 'progressive' sucker-bet for $1... and I was playing it most of the time.

    Ran out of $1 tokes & didn't feel like breaking another $5, so I played without the 'bonus' bet...

    You guessed it - 3 or 4 hands later - I get the Ace-King-Queen of spades, missing out on a $2850 progressive.

    I can't be the ONLY VMB'er this has happened to... please - share your story so I won't feel like the only fool here!
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  2. TXactuarial

    TXactuarial Low-Roller

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    Just remember, the Lions Share was hit years ago by a guy who only played 2 coins.
     
  3. wanker751

    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

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    So for me I usually never play side bets.... I always play Caribbean stud's but that is because it is usually a high jackpot...

    When I play pai gow commission I will run my dollars though on side bets sometimes, but if I miss out on the big one.. 5k? Meh.... I would be mad but not pissed... but something that is really big, yes...
     
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  4. bjpcyclone

    bjpcyclone High-Roller

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    Don't have a story to make you feel better but your example is exactly why I will either a) play the side bet 100% of the time or b) never play the side bets (usually the case). That way I'll either hit one or if I do, I will have not been playing so I won't feel as bad.

    I feel for you.
     
  5. Not at the table Carlos

    Not at the table Carlos Low-Roller

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    Exact same situation for me. I sat down at 3 card poker at NYNY June 2013. Every other player was betting the dollar, and when I sat down I said, nah I don't play those bets. 3rd hand looked down at AKQ spades. I said....you guys aren't going to be happy...
    "What do you have 3 of a kind?"
    ....no
    "Straight flush???"
    ....no

    Dealer turns it over and they go ballistic. Dealer called pit boss over. Pit boss called another one over....just to laugh at me. Other players won like $200 a piece. I missed out on my $4,600.
     
  6. MikeOPensacola

    MikeOPensacola VIP Whale

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    Tough break Top. Major bummer.......

    I pretty much stick to BJ but I'll allow myself one session at a carny game per day. I always play the sucker bet. I don't play slots and BJ is a grind so I like to play a game once a day that gives me the opportunity for a huge payday. My biggest hit so far was a six card straight flush playing High Card Flush with $10 bet on the straight flush side bet.
     
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  7. boxofbirds

    boxofbirds High-Roller

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    OUCH! I usually play the sucker side bets, even if I "know" I shouldn't.... Partly to avoid this situation. The first time I played 3-card poker I got trips without playing the pair-plus side bet, but that's as close as I've been to this situation.

    Wizard of Odds has info on the amount at which the 3-card poker and UTH progessive sidebets become +EV.
     
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  8. La$Vega$

    La$Vega$ Low-Roller

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    Missed 999 to 1 for not betting the craps 'Fire Bet' on myself. I usually bet $5 on my own roll. I don't usually bet on others save a few shooters on hunches, with around 27% HE (not so wise a bet) never-the-less a fun bet when the ship comes into port!
    10 points later :grrr: I kept gently :poke: the dealers for not reminding me to bet it!
    (I bet for them too!)
     
  9. LV_Bound

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    We played some card game this past trip for the first time.
    My wife didn't play the sucker bet and would have won about $350.
    Relatively small amount but the frustrated feeling is about the same.

    For me, I hit the All Small and All Tall for a clean sweep.
    Other people had $10 on those.
    Me.....forgot to bet.
     
  10. TIMSPEED

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    That SUCKS TopCard!
    I have a similar story...only in reverse..
    I was at PHo with Aaron5, and my wife a month back, and he wanted to play some 3CP, so I sat down with him, and i usually never play the PairPlus. So a few hands go by, and I finally give in to Aaron and the dealer wanting me to play the PP....first bet on it, i hit trip 10's for $150...lol
    Needless to say, I played PP for a few more hands, then we all cashed out. (Still wished Aaron woulda got them, because he was playing $100 on each spot, where I was only playing $5)
     
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    This is exactly how I do it! That way if I'm not playing and I do hit, I won't feel bad..
     
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    Damn man...that sucks!

    I mainly play craps so if I am on a table that has the fire bet or the all small/tall I am playing it. I would be pissed at myself if I didn't play them and they hit.

    When casinos still had Spanish 21 I always played match the dealer and actually would do better on that than the actual portion of the game sometimes.

    The only sidebets I never play on blackjack are the ones that equate to poker hands...I just play straight blackjack then
     
  13. mescalita

    mescalita Low-Roller

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    I was playing blackjack at the ElCo last fall when somebody hit the Royal Match progressive for $16K. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't playing the side bet at the time. The look his wife gave him was priceless - he probably hasn't gotten lucky with her since....
     
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    The moral of the story is dont play them bets...ever, playing them on and off, and then agonizing over a missed bet is the path to madness. I've played Bj and had the dealer tap the table at my 6, 7, 8 suited, which had some 200-1 payout, like i missed out, I'm ,like 200-1? I've seen thousands of hands since that happened.

    I've had people imply I should play the side bets and I always say " oh, is that a good bet?, It's pretty hard to win at the main game, much less that one"
     
  15. topcard

    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    The mini-royal sucker bet in 3-card is a little different in that it pays $6 (6:1) on a straight - a relatively common hand in 3-card. It's $50 for trips, $70 for straight-flush and $500 for a non-spade mini-royal. Still, a huge house edge, but not as poor as the CET 6-card bonus, or many of the other various side-bets out there.

    In any event, I think you (& others) are correct - "the only winning move is not to play" - Joshua

    Still - it was frustrating.
     
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  16. AbFab

    AbFab Low-Roller

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    The minute you walk into a casino you've made a sucker bet. Therefore, that is why I always play them. :D
     
  17. RockyBalboa

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    I bet the ElCo bosses did a dance that he wasn't playing it too - they sweat the money
     
  18. sm2420

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    Wow, nice WarGames reference, topcard .:nworthy:
     
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    Stratosphere used to have a side bet on Pai Gow Poker where a five-card hand of a straight or better plus a pair pays on the side bet. A Royal Flush with a Pair paid 10,000 to 1, and you could bet anywhere from $1 to $10. The guy sitting next to me played the side bet every time except he forgot to place it once. Yep, he got the Royal Flush and a Pair on that hand. This was around 15 years ago.
     
  20. boxofbirds

    boxofbirds High-Roller

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    LOL.... love it.
     
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