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Midi Baccarat Hands Per Hour for ADT

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Labeeb, Jul 23, 2014.

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  1. Labeeb

    Labeeb Low-Roller

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    Easy question...What is the industry standard for hands per hour for midi baccarat for ADT purposes? I can't believe it's 60 given the pace of the game, but wouldn't know how low it would go.
     
  2. UKFanatic

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    Most places these days rate you at one shoe per hour.
     
  3. broncofn

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    It is what UK said. 1 shoe = 1 hour of play. Also, doesnt include if you take a lot of free hands etc.

    But that is the standard.
     
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    Good point. I have seen supervisors record players at less than one hour of play for a shoe if they take a lot of free hands.
     
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    They still have to peg it to a number of hands per shoe, and it has to be variable, otherwise you would never see anybody playing alone.
     
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    correct 1 shoe per hour but they are wise they watch if you sit out they will mark you down for a half a shoe, a quarter a shoe and so forth, so 15 minutes, 30 minutes and 45 minutes , there wise to all the tricks

    if your in hl room and they know you , u have more leway but that goes for bj or any game that you have relationship with the pit critters and a host and large amont of money its more relaxed ,they know usualy in the long run they will get it back from you
     
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    Caesars does rate by time and not by shoe. Don't know how many hands per hour they figure into the ADT.
     
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    Yes you are right, they watch closely.
    My dilemma is that my baccarat sessions are 5-7hrs long bet $100-$500 hand. Buy in $2k.
    Ex, my previous sessions I'll sit out hands, but at the end of grind session I end profit $5k for total 2+5=7k.
    I did this twice (profit 5k+5k=10k) sessions.

    I received 35,000 tier credits each session (35k+35k=70k tc) at aria back room.

    How would u assess the rating they gave me?
     
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    That's virtually impossible to know without knowing your average wager. How many shoes were played during your five to seven hours? I'm guessing you earned about $150 in EC. With an average bet of $100 a hand, you would earn about $35 in comps per shoe if you play the entire shoe. Obviously, you will have earned a lot more if you bet $500 a hand for every hand. Without knowing that information, it is difficult to assess how you were rated
     
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    my question , is how do u buy for 2 k and play 5-7 hours and bet 100-500, bac is pure guessing, and make it that long u must be real lucky alot unless you sit out 4.9 hours of the 5 hour session
     
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    I jump tables, if no convincing pattern I either sit out or bet $100.
     
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    In that case, it is almost impossible for someone on here to tell you if you were rated properly. You're playing multiple tables without knowing your average bet (only the range) and without knowing how many hands you are playing. You're probably earning somewhere 25,000 TC per hour at $100 per hand playing every hand.
     
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    what pattern like black or red on roulette , its all random ,its a guessing game

    but i guess i was correct you dont really play 5 to 7 hours uk is right maybe an hour because at 2 k 98 percent of the time u will bust out for playing 5-7 hours at 100-500 a hand math doesnt add up.
     
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    im going over in the next few days to bellagio to get my rating from saturday nite, i got around 15,000 credits ,ill post the excat numbers and time i belive was around an hour ,avarage notsure where i finished i could be between 400- 800$ but ill post when i get excat numbers. this can give guidiance
     
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    I'll try to figure it out this week.
    I'll flat bet $100 a hand for a shoe and see what happens.

    I'll do bank the entire shoe and see what the rating is. Hopefully it is a banker's shoe.
     
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    Just keep in mind, Bellagio rates you by number of shoes, not time (1 shoe = 1 hour in their calculations). So the more important variable, PP, is whether you played an entire shoe
     
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    So the plan is take a $10k marker get black chips and bet every hand on bank for one shoe with one black chip.

    I'm just hoping it is a Bankers shoe and the banker wins at least 3 more than the player to cover the commission.

    I think the Dealer's are going to think I'm CRAZY.


    Plus I'm going to have to see if I can keep my bets at 100 is the big question.

    I'm only going to do that on one shoe only either at Aria or Caesar's.
     
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    sorry mine was for bj my mistake , but it will give some guidance so ill post just so people can see,
     
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    Man, i can already picture an epic string of banker...all the while you are flat betting and cringing that you must stick to the test.
     
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    i only bet banker and once in a while tie they wont think your crazy , they think im the toking white guy who doesnt know better, every time i switch to player i goes to banker so i gave up, but i hit a few tie streaks, but i drives the asians crazy that i dont switch they think theres some pattern and i just cant see it and they always ask you never play player and i tell them when i do it switches to banker.

    but ill join in and bang on the table yelling monkey at 4 am in nyc thats racial profiling in vegas thats called team sports
     
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