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MGM lays out its Toronto proposal

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Hotels & Casinos' started by habs0nut, Mar 7, 2013.

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  1. habs0nut

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    MGM presented it's proposal for an intergrated resort to be built at Exhibition Place yesterday. I must say it looks very promising and I'm on board.

    Here's a rundown of what MGM Resorts is proposing for Exhibition Place:

    http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/06/mgm-unveils-vision-for-toronto-casino
     
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    A very Aria'ish front entrance to the hotel

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  3. anonanon

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    I wish this was slated for Vancouver instead :(
     
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    Looks neat, but I doubt I'd visit it more than once. Fallsview is pricey enough. I can't imagine the minimums on a Saturday night for a GTA casino.
     
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    I barely recognize that picture as Toronto's waterfront.

    They did not mention if the MGM-Toronto credits would be worthy Mlife credits in LV. Because that's why I have given up gambling in Canada - you don't get anything for it. The slots are tighter than a nun's *** and there's no hotel, no comped drinks, nothing that builds up to a nice stay. Seneca? We make a weekend of it, and we always get another free weekend with free food. I doubt that will happen here.

    So I will gamble at Seneca and in Vegas, because I get something for it - free rooms, food and drink. I like knowing that whatever I would have spent on rooms and food could instead by invested into gambling where there is a possibility of bringing money home. Even if I lose the bankroll, it basically pays for the room and food. This would probably not be the case for a big gambler, but for someone who only has about 500 bones to roll with, that pretty much covers the cost of 2 nights of a room and a bunch of meals.

    Also, I'm from Toronto and I can barely stand other Torontonians. Is that wrong I admit that?

    PS. You know what would have been great? A movie theatre, great for Toronto International Film Festival, and a banquet area. It'll kill Liberty though.

    PPS I know nothing about anything. Que sera, sera.
     
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    I am all for a nice water front casino, but the one thing the MGM execs have under estimated is the cultural significance and connection people have with the CNE. Any talk of shutting down, dramatically changing the EX is going to have resistance. If it wasn't for the Ex, this proposal should be a slam dunk.
     
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    it may look pretty, but it's still the gov't of Ontario running it, doing everything within their power to ensure that you only have as much fun as they specifically legislate, and no more.

    I'll pass, and I'll keep taking my dollar across the border to play at Seneca.
     
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    They may legislate, but hey at least they don't tax your winnings. And the government doesn't "run it". Any government can "legislate" gambling rules. The only difference is the Ontario government gets a bigger cut than they would off just corporate tax. And I dont think thats a bad thing.
     
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    I would imagine it would be using MLife the same as Caesars Windsor uses Total Rewards and you should be able to use the points in Vegas. I've already decided that if the casino does get approved, whoever wins the rights to it be it MGM, CET, Sands or Wynn, they will get my business in Vegas as well.

    They just finished building the Bell Lightbox at King and John for TIFF so a movie theatre wouldn't really be a benefit. I think the idea of the resort is to tie it into what's already at the EX. The convention space will be the Direct Energy Centre which they would be expanding. Liberty grand isn't going anywhere so that's why there's no banquet area.

    Do worry, I'm in the GTA and I can't stand most other Torontonians as well. Mind you that probably has something to do with being born in Montreal.


    The EX is nothing more than a giant flea market with fixed carny games and unsafe rides. I honestly don't see what the big appeal is and it probably could use a few changes.
     
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    This is long overdue!!
     
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    The "Ex" as most fondly remember from it's heyday is long gone. It's such a far cry as to my childhood memories of going in the 70's. When they tore down the flyer and Alpine way, it was the beginning of the end. Good riddance IMO.

    That said, it still will never be as cool as Vegas with our Booze and smoking laws. I might visit once, but that's it.
     
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    Would be great if they arranged a glassed-in smoking area - you could probably reduce the return on the slots and there'd be no complaints, as long as smoking is allowed! My gambling partner is a huge smoker and that is why she hates Canadian casinos since you have do a walk of shame outside and smoke like a kid behind a middle school.

    I also wish they would have smoking lounges at the airport - you pay a fee, go in, the ventilation is like the air lock in Alien, and you can go in a few times. I know smokers would pay money to do that, especially before long flights overseas. Is no one seeing the massive financial opportunities to fleece smokers, or is it just me? ;)
     
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    Think its not legally allowed if i recall. Shortly after the smoking ban they went further and wouldn't let places have enclosed smoking areas.
     
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    Im not saying the Ex is great, but just watch the crying about culture and history if they decide to try and do something with the CNE. Enough councellors are against a casino as it is, they will look for any reason to try and rally the public to oppose it.
    That said, I hope its run liek a real casino and not the way Niagara or Rama is now. Black jack rules are terrible. To be honest they dont even care about table games, its all about slots.
     
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    BJ rules in Ontario (e.g. Fallsview, Rama) are better than typical LV Strip rules the last time I checked. S17, DAS and never 6:5.
     
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    The rules are similar, I should have been more specific. I hate auto shufflers.
    Mostly auto shufflers in Niagara and Rama.
     
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    CSMs get a bad rap for no particularly good reason. And I would not call using them not being a "real casino".
     
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    MGM held a 'career showcase' yesterday down at The Ex. Wish I had know as I would have gone down to check it out.

    http://www.cp24.com/news/mgm-holds-career-showcase-despite-no-casino-approval-1.1198316

     
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    habs: I know you will be happy with a casino close to home !!
     
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    I read the article and was looking for any info that the MGM/Mlife points would be usable in Vegas. Nothin' yet.

    For all my grumbling about Woodbine, I confess I went the other day. Had been to a funeral visitation and a medical appt as well as some other bad news, and was about 5 mins from the casino. Life is short, I thought, just go, feel alive for a bit. Did the walk of shame to the ATM and lost my br in 55 mins. So now I really really don't like Woodbine. ;)

    I know no one judges here. :)
     
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