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"Light" black action bj comps

Discussion in 'Comps' started by geoff, Jan 4, 2016.

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  1. geoff

    geoff Low-Roller

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    Currently my go-to is encore for my Vegas trips, but reading all the trip reports has me wondering if I'm missing out on something. With Wynn I don't get the quarterly offers at all any more..( I do get slot tournament offers with 2-3nights comped) I guess technically I have a host assigned and she will come me resort rooms when I ask but if I even suggest anything else it's like pulling teeth.. Told me if I want transportation, the concierge can book me a limo for $175 from the airport lol

    My play depends on if my wife comes along or not, if so its about4-5k (8k+coin in?)slot points per day (a little vp too)plus 4+ hours of bj at $100+ had average

    Solo is less slots and more bj, last trip I paid out of pocket for a parlor suite 2 night but had to check out early and only stayed 1.. Had $178 average for 8.5 hours in that trip plus around 2.5k slot points.. Since I booked the room through Amex they couldn't touch the room, they comped off about $300 f&b which I know I was under comped but that's all I charged to the room in the 1 night.

    Now, I like to stay at nice places and don't really mind paying got it (I will usually pay out of pocket for Wynn ts rather than take a comped resort room and use whatever comps for f&b) but I'm so far down the totem pole at Wynn I never get invites for nye/Super Bowl/march madness/etc..,

    Wife doesn't like bellagio and won't stay there. I hear aria is almost as stingy as Wynn with the comps. How far down the rung would I have to go for a comped room/suite with a limo and maybe freeplay or even rfb?

    I stayed at twice back in 2008/9 (play was lower back then) and would consider something that level for the right offer but wouldn't want to go below that.. I'd rather pay for everything than stay at Excalibur or something rfb...

    Basically what I'm trying to determine is if I should keep all my play at Wynn next trip or if it's worth give play somewhere else one day this trip for future offers outside of Wynn or if I'm just giving up theo at Wynn for this trip comps for a possible future offer I wouldn't even want to use..
     
  2. 44inarow

    44inarow VIP Whale

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    This is a key point. I'm at about your level, and while I get comp offers constantly from the lower-end Mlife resorts, I love Aria too much to stay elsewhere. I'd much rather pay for the room and the dining, than stay at a place I don't like as much but have it be free.
     
  3. CenterfieldNine

    CenterfieldNine Low-Roller

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    What about NYNY, Paris or Monte Carlo? You might get treated fairly well at those props while still being on the decently nice albeit touristy side of things.
     
  4. parallax

    parallax Low-Roller

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    A couple years ago MB might have made some nice offers to you based on your play, including a suite, free play and a decent resort credit. However, they have been really cutting back so you would be lucky to get comped rooms based on your play. It is easier to be a big fish in a little pond. Your would likely receive more love at the Trop, TI, Mirage and SLS of the worlds.
     
  5. bjpcyclone

    bjpcyclone High-Roller

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    What about mid-tier properties like PH, Paris, Mirage, Mandalay Bay, etc? You should be able to get plenty of decent offers those levels.
     
  6. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    Trop.
     
  7. 2VegasNuts

    2VegasNuts High-Roller

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    Almost that exact play gets me a corner site at Aria or a regular room at Venetian. Both nice places with great rooms. My play at Aria has significantly decreased over the past 5 years. My comps remain virtually the same. I have even low played a few trips in a row and still today get the same offer. As a side note, I played at Ameristar in St Louis at $200/hd UTH 4 hrs and got an Aria offer through them.

    Getting back to Aria specifically, I also have a $15k credit line that still exists from years past. Finally, I always wonder if they run my credit report and base offers off of what I could play.
     
  8. firstkill

    firstkill High-Roller

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    my average is between 200-300 on blackjack/baccarat 4-5 hrs daily
    minimal slots, I don't rate when play small craps or UTH.

    aria, nothing
    cosmo, terrace rooms/terrace studio with back end food ( not even close to RFB ) transport if its a losing trip
    SLS, lux tower room, 100 off food. Did not ask for transport as I drove. (they would not back comp more than 100)
    wynn/VP both base rooms, not much else.
    MB free room, 300 food total
    CET I haven't stayed for a long time, but hit and run at that level gives a few hundred in food or FP and free rooms on the calanders.

    I thought SLS would be "the place" you are describing but I feel they are about on par with center strip and the place itself isn't that "nice"
    maybe TI/Trop/Mirage or any CET would be a good choice to try.

    at your stakes, chose the lucky place and just pay for the food/transport. I don't feel there is a jump inservice/comps until you start playing purple level
     
  9. NickPapageorgio

    NickPapageorgio OG of the Sal Sagev Hotel

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    Precisely. Mirage hosts wont shake your hand for that action, let alone comp the house limo. MGM in general doesn't do cartwheels for $100- $200 action. Trop will, and their suites and food offerings are better than you might expect. Their comp system is certainly friendly to your level of play.

    Nick:beer:
     
  10. grosx2

    grosx2 VIP Whale

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    If the trop were a CET prop, where do you think it would rank in comparison to other CET props?
     
  11. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    IMO, between Harrahs and Ballys
     
  12. stackinchips

    stackinchips High-Roller

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    The Casino floor I would agree with you. But including the rooms and amenities? Trop is better than both of those joints for rooms and pool. The biggest drawback to the Trop IMO would be the limited selection of restaurants. RFB would get pretty old there fast.

    As for the OP, Mirage would probably give you some pretty good comps (room, a few hundred in RC, possibly limo) if your slot play was in the $7500+ range plus your table play. I think you could get comped at V/P as well for your room and some smaller amount of FP & FB (probably in the $75-150 range each). Problem with V/P is that unless you have a host relationship, their offers are unreliable. Many times they send out their offer but only set aside a few rooms for those offers, and once the blocked off rooms are taken, the offer is no longer valid. The hotel may still have plenty of vacancy, but you can't book the offer. At the end of the day, if the room is important to you I'd stick with what you know or try out Aria while being willing to pay for the room if it's not comped.
     
  13. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    I agree, except I think the rooms are comparable. Trop has a better pool than those two, but I actually prefer the Ballys casino floor over Trop
     
  14. RC

    RC Low-Roller

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    If you chose Trop ... be aware that this year they are switching their player's card to be on the same system as the M Resort and whatever the company's name that bought this property. This could of course end up being either good or bad for player comps ...
     
  15. cjohnson202

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    I see all this talk of Limos being comp'd. Is this something that's really that difficult? My last trip, Hunter got me one from the Linq to the airport. He took care of the charge but I saw it on my bill as $60. At the numbers the OP stated, I would think a $60 charge would be pretty easy to take care of on the backend.
     
  16. Bondy3

    Bondy3 Low-Roller

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    No talk of the Cosmo in this thread, Arent they generally pretty good with the room comps? I feel like at this level they would give you at least a room, possibly food, not sure rfb but I would think its worth trying,
     
  17. mrem3200

    mrem3200 High-Roller

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    I am a CET guy that plays at a similar level (at least based on your BJ betting, I have no idea what your slot play means as I don't play slots). My last trip my avg was $125 for 5-6 hours a day, exclusively BJ and Craps. I have always been able to get free rooms (at any CET property) and some free play, last trip it was $200 and they took off all of my F&B charges and resort fees (about $600) but my actual loss was just under $10K and they would have only taken off about half of that based on my theo vs. actual loss (at least that's what my host told me) and they gave me a ride to the airport, not a limo but the house sedan.

    I just talked to my host yesterday about my next trip. He put me in the Cromwell (Wed, Th, Fri, the second week of March Madness), just a regular room. $375 free play and told me if I wanted a limo to send him my flight information once I book it. So hopefully that is just some point of reference.

    Good luck
     
  18. Naturaleight

    Naturaleight High-Roller

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    Wynn thinks his sh*t doesn't stink, so they can treat all mid level customers badly. I would not play at Wynn at your level since your play is obviously not being appreciated. I would move to a property where my play would be much more appreciated, and I'd be given (at the very least) airport transfer and free room. At your level, that is not asking too much.

    I don't think you'd have to go down as far as Trop. I can see MGM (the actual property), or as others mentioned above NYNY or SLS treating you right, and definitely SLS. Personally, I'm an SLS fan and they are so hungry for business like yours, they would probably roll out the red carpet for you. I also like NYNY, they have some great restaurants and I love the high limit room because its quiet and nobody is ever in there. If you're willing to go downtown you'd also be treated like a King.

    If you need a host referral at any of these properties PM me.
     
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