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let's get over the resort fee thing

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by chef, Sep 13, 2013.

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  1. chef

    chef Resident Buffetologist

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    Now that virtually every casino hotel has some sort of fee, what's the big deal? We all know that they are worthless and none of us have any use for them.
    But, why squabble anymore about them.
    If the casinos would ever be truthful about it, they would even admit they are a worthless add-on.
    Bottom line- is there really any difference between a $50 room sans fees and a $35 room with a $15 fee.
    It all comes down to final room cost; and its possible that resort fees bring the cost of the room down to make up for the cost of the fee itself.
    I'm over it and willing to accept the current state of affairs.
     
  2. DonD

    DonD Super Moderator

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    I agree chef!

    Soon we'll see ads that say, Rooms $1 per night, Resort fee $129.00
     
  3. waverunner

    waverunner BBHMM

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    The big deal is paying $125 + tax per 5 nights on a comped room. That's the big deal. It makes no difference on the room cost...........i was getting comped before and after. That is one of the reasons i only book comped rooms.........to lesson the blow.
     
  4. dfalk

    dfalk VIP Whale

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    I agree, anyone who brings them up should be banned from the forum! j/k thats a little harsh.

    Everyone has 2 options, stay at a hotel with them, or stay at a hotel without them. End of story.
     
  5. Mitkraft

    Mitkraft High-Roller

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    I think bitching about bitchers is way worse than bitching in the first place.

    Bitching about bitching about bitching is perfectly ok though.

    I personally think its pretty bad form to start a thread to tell everybody what they have a right to be bothered by or need to get over. Especially when the sheer volume of people bothered in-and-of-itself would indicate there must be some merit to their complaint.
     
  6. RockyBalboa

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    I didn't like when they started these and knew the CET campaign of NO RESORT FEES wouldn't last long.

    However I look at it like this;

    Yes they're ridiculous when you look at them on face value with what you get (free local calls, faxing services, newspaper, etc) but they're now part of the landscape that will never go away.

    If you go on trips to hotels in cities like NYC, Philly, etc (hell we even got hit on a stay in San Antonio) they charge you crazy nightly parking fees. Sometimes they're not disclosed on the websites or when booking.

    So all hotels will bleed your wallet in different ways.

    I believe they should just be rolled into the total cost but that hotels do this just for advertising reasons (rooms as low as $29/night!!!).

    Airlines used to do this with their taxes/fees until they were forced to change that deceptive practice.
     
  7. AlwaysVegas

    AlwaysVegas Low-Roller

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    Sorry, but resort fees are just another way of Vegas bragging that it is now run by the stuffed shirts who really love badgering their bread and butter tourists. Advertising a rate and applying a bogus fee that jacks it up by 30%+ for pool, FREE parking, and toilet paper is really bad business.

    OK, I made up the toilet paper part.

    But still...if you're justifying the fees...those stuffed shirts really love you and they'll be jacking up their bogus fees in the future...AND increasing their theoretical return on all games just to show you how much they embrace your "anything goes" attitude.

    Enjoy your $1,000 cabana at the free pool and your $500 bottle of vodka at the club.
     
  8. RockyBalboa

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    I believe you could argue all corporations do this in some form or fashion. The banking industry will fee you to death. Look at your cable/satellite bills and you will see fees on there or new ones pop up. My apartment complex here in Houston charges us $25/mo for valet trash service.

    So is it really justification or just coming to acceptance, begrudgingly I might add?

    If the Mirage, for example, decided to list their rooms at $204/nt for a certain date rather than $179 plus resort fee would that make you feel better? Its still the same. Any Vegas goer knows the deal by now so you just work that into your budget and go have fun.

    I don't do clubs and/or bottle service so none of that means much to me. But the people who come to Vegas for those things are the main reason, in my opinion, that they (hotels) look for ways to add revenue. Gaming revenue is down so they have to make it up elsewhere.
     
  9. AlwaysVegas

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    The new Vegas loves you. When their resort fees double the advertised room rate and gaming returns reach the legal low of 75%, they'll welcome you and your wallet with open arms. You'll also be charged an air conditioning and toilet paper recovery fee on a per-night basis. The Fremont "experience" fee is also an additional charge applied even if you're not staying in Vegas...just because people accept it. If you do not pay this fee, you'll be required to not look up at the formerly free Fremont Street Experience.

    The casinos are also looking into a not-so-gaudy carpet fee, but that fee has not been ratified just yet.

    OK, I made up the toilet paper fee.
     
  10. thecarve

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    To each his own. As long as I'm free to ignore the threads, I'll never say that someone shouldn't complain about resort fees. There are plenty of things I go on and on about that probably cause others to roll their eyes just as I do when I read another resort fee thread.

    But I will say that I don't really get it. Perhaps I'm odd. But when the price for a good or service increases to the point where I no longer feel it's worth the money I have to exchange for it...I stop purchasing that good/service. To me that seems much easier and more effective than continuing to pay the higher price and complaining about it. (We aren't talking about insulin, after all.)
     
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    AlwaysVegas Low-Roller

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    This is true, but most hotels charge you an extra fee for a refrigerator for your insulin unless you're losing oodles in their casinos.
     
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    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Well played, sir (or madam)! :evillaugh
     
  13. buckeyetodd

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    I for one am sick of hidden charges, although at this point the resort fee is not really hidden. as a matter of fact, my trips to vegas have lessened partly due to being turned off by getting sucked dry by the casinos at every turn.

    resort fees, expensive food, cabbies trying to long haul you, tips, tips, tips, tips....did I mention tips? my wife and I used to live off of tips when we were young. I understand tipping and am a very generous tipper but come on, its getting ridiculous. over my last few trips I have even noticed some dealers crying about poor tipping. hey dealer, maybe you're a bit of an asshole. maybe you stand there like a freaking statue and make no effort to ensure the players are having a good time. maybe the players are getting pounded by the house. who wants to tip a dealer when you are losing nonstop. if you can't live with the up and down paychecks that are dependent on tips, go find a different job.

    maybe the casinos need to be a little more choosy who they are giving free stuff to. why give a free room to someone who shows up with a couple hundred bucks to gamble with over a three day period. does that kind of play really warrant a free room?

    I say this, if airlines can only make money by their extra fees, take those fees, add them to the fare upfront, and that's the cost of a ticket. if you can't afford to fly, don't freaking fly. making the consumer feel like they are getting back doored is no way to do business.

    casinos, that's another story. they were already making money hand over fist before the resort fees. now they are just being greedy.

    wow, I feel better. resort fees are bullshit.
     
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    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    They only impact me on (formerly) comped rooms... is it really a "comp" anymore when you're out $60 for three nights? Isn't that actually a $20-a-night room?
    ~shrug~
    Don't get me wrong - I realize that a $20 room night is still an incredibly great deal... it's just that it didn't used to even cost the $20.
     
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    I like this! :thumbsup: Bitch about whatever you want, except politics of course :evillaugh

    Just a fyi, the parking rate in downtown Seattle at our hotel was $35 per night. Roundtrip bus service from Seatac to downtown was $31 pp.

    No bitching from me until Boyd starts charging resort fees downtown, then look out! :wink2:
     
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    Surprise! I disagree... This board has a sizable contingent of curmudgeons and they're drawn like a moth to a flame whenever there's some complainin' to do, whether it be noise, clubbers, zip lines, resort fees, black-jack rules, cupcakes on a buffet, etc. (and trust me I could come up with many, many more). By letting them dominate the complaining thread gives the appearance to all that every one agrees with them, which of course is what they want.

    I get the whole "change the channel" argument, "don't read the thread if you don't like it", but that's the whole "America, love it or leave it argument!" all over again. I'm not into bein' bullied that way.

    I have worked on toning down my comments though, as I do agree it's possible to "disagree without being disagreeable", though I'm not perfect at it and have been slapped because of it. I just don't believe every thread needs only to be responded to by those who agree with the OP... what the heck kind of banter is that? :peace:
     
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  17. dean_1492

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    Remember, we *WANTED the RESORT FEES*.:peace:
     
  18. Sonya

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    I think the light rail is like $7.25 to the airport. Wanna really pay to go to the airport? Accept a ride from one of the "town cars" at the ferry building. Yikes!

    I agree with the people who are frustrated with the feeling that Vegas is trying to nickle and dime them. I think this comes more from the more experienced Vegas set who have come to expect Vegas to be one way.

    I count myself into that group. I miss the cheap buffets and surf & turf specials. But you can still find deals and a little extra resort fee math never hurt anyone. :) I just want to make sure that people are educated about the resort fees: which hotels have them, how to avoid them, what they cover, etc.

    To me it's more important that people aren't surprised by them until they are at checkout and hear "Surprise! An extra $125 on your bill for stuff you didn't use!"
     
  19. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    I'm over the resort fee thing. It's here to stay.

    However, I often wonder why the resort fee cannot just be included in the cost of the room.

    I'm more comfortable paying $50 per night for a room than have a hotel quote $40 per night then you find out there is a $10 fee hidden somewhere in their advertisement.

    Just seems underhanded to me. It discredits their integrity and makes me not want to do business with them.

    I had the same feeling when I go to buy a car and the salesman start talking bullshit.:nono:
     
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    I did look into the rail, but didn't feel like shlepping our luggage for ~4 blocks to the hotel. Vegas sure, if I was on the WAX and needed to get to MSS, I'd walk up Fremont with luggage.
     
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