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Table Games Legal Question Re: Shoot to Win Craps

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by TuneinTokyo, Jul 24, 2012.

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  1. TuneinTokyo

    TuneinTokyo High-Roller

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    I've prepared a statement that I want to present to the Nevada Gaming Commission. I'm just looking for imput. I've been in town for school (trip report to follow) and have been enjoying the South Point casino.......until......:nono::grrr::nono::grrr::grrr:

    To Whom is should concern,

    My name is TuneinTokyo. I need to inform you of an issue I had with South Point Casino and Hotel on 7/23/2012. I was playing Shoot to Win Craps at South Point's casino at around 10 p.m.. I was on what I believe was seat No. 6. The table was full. After about a half hour of playing the gentleman sitting at what I believe may have been seat No. 3 (three seats to my right) noticed that one of the dice in the box of Shoot to Win Craps was cracked on one side and the bottom part of the crack was sticking out about 1/16-1/8 of an inch. The gentleman at seat No. 3 alerted the attendant who then told everyone to play at their own risk. She went to get the manger of that game and he also said they wouldn't change the die and to play at your own risk. They allowed to the game to continue as new unsuspecting players began playing. I walked by several minutes later and new players where playing. It's on tape.



    I've have only played a live game of craps, and as I thought I knew, the game stops and the die is changed if it gets cracked a piece breaks off or it falls off the table etc.



    Could you please respond to let me know if what they did was legal by allowing the game to continue while unsuspecting players were entering the game.

    Sincerely TuneinTokyo :wave:


    So what do you think? I won't ever go back, which sucks because I thought I had a new home base. Oh well.
     
  2. LV_Bound

    LV_Bound VIP Whale

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    That seems weird as any Craps table I have played they usually have 3-4 sets of dice readily available and can't image them not wanting to simply swap them out.

    Not sure what are the guidelines for changing the dice, but if sending the letter is going to make you feel better then go ahead and do it. You already have it typed up.
     
  3. Hyperfocal

    Hyperfocal High-Roller

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    Maybe you should have charted the rolls and figured out what numbers came up more often than they should. Could have been like the guys who clocked the roulette wheels in Atlantic City and cleaned up.

    That will teach the casino to ignore problems.:wink2:
     
  4. KingBBInLV

    KingBBInLV High-Roller

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    A letter is a bad idea and i'm gonna tell you why.

    First off if you ever have a problem, a dispute or whatever in a casino you should call the NV Gaming Commission, here is their number: 702-486-2020

    They will send out a gaming agent and the agent or agents will be at the casino in 15-60 minutes to investigate the problem. You sending a letter now is going to do absolutely nothing and will just be a waste of your time.


    Second, having a cracked or biased die in this game is to YOUR ADVANTAGE!
    Just track what bias the die is favoring and bet accordingly! Having that information you could have made 10's of thousands!

    Put it this way, if you go up to a roulette wheel and its on a tilt or slant and you see it's landing on #17 7 out of 10 times and the other 3 times it's landing on the number right next to 17 would you call the floor guy over and complain or would you bet your ass off on those numbers that it keeps hitting?
     
  5. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    if one die became biased towards one number, that would make it harder to hit 7 since the other die would have only one number to hit to make 7. that would be very good for the players.
     
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