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Las Vegas Strip Old Resorts

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by TAR456, Mar 17, 2016.

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  1. TAR456

    TAR456 Tourist

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    I'm newcomer, so this is my first post.

    I want to ask some questions...

    What was most luxurious Strip resort that no longer exists?

    Are Stardust, Westward Ho, Frontier and Boardwalk profitable when it was closed?

    Are their room sizes is small by today's standards? Is there any hotel with room sizes same as MGM or Ballys?

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. Joe

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    I'll throw my two cents in and say Desert Inn was the most luxurious.
     
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  3. notfromconcentrate

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    While it doesn't exactly "no longer exist", and it isn't exactly on the strip - the Las Vegas Hilton was world-class luxurious in the 1980's after things got more competitive when Atlantic City became a gambling destination, and the Mirage popped up offering "high roller accommodations". Steve Cyr raves about this sort of thing in his book Whale Hunting in the Desert. The place still stands today as the Westgate... but it's nowhere near the magnitude of what it was as the LVH.
     
  4. BayouBengal

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    The Desert Inn was probably the nicest one and was probably least needed to be replaced. In 1997 it received a huge renovation though it would be considered small by today's standards as it had around 700 rooms and only about 35k sq ft of casino. It probably could have been upgraded with a large tower add-on and perhaps a 2nd casino but money was cheap the Steve wanted to build HIS property and not for anyone else.
     
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    The DI was great. I could never afford to stay or play there when it was open but always stopped in. There weren't many high end places back then. When Wynn bought it he gave some lip service to maybe keeping it and building around it/adding to it but of course that didn't happen.

    The rest of the old places were middle of the road/low end. I miss the Stardust and always liked the Sands and the Dunes. Glad the Frontier is gone, never liked that place. Westward Ho had an afternoon champagne fountain that was cool, otherwise it was pretty dumpy.
     
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    We didn't experience the glory days. We stayed at a number of the grande dames well into their dotage. Elegance is the word I'd use comparing then to now. Your average Hyatt Place has better and bigger ROH rooms than say DI ever did -- and to me DI was the pinnacle -- so you can't compare on that level. I'd say there was a level of class and sophistication -- or at least the nostalgic appearance of -- to that period.
     
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    My first time in the DI was 1996 I think. Nearly at the end of it's time. I recall walking in with a friend at the time, and people stopped to look at me...purely on the basis that I wasn't wearing a sports blazer or suit jacket. I recall walking around the casino, and thinking that this felt exactly like the European casinos of yesteryear. No other casino has come close to exuding the social graces of the DI on the strip, in my opinion. The Encore has it's days, but it doesn't stick in my memory (well...the losses hurt I guess).
     
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    Another vote for the DI. It was the personification of class without being snobby. For my money it was the best on the strip for the vast majority of it's existence. It also had the only golf course in the world that held tournaments for all three major tours each year: PGA, LPGA and the men's Senior Tour. I hated to see it torn up when they built the Wynn.

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    No one has mentioned Vacation Village!!
     
  10. Joe

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    Or Boardwalk! :evillaugh
     
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    Damn - How quickly I forget!
     
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    The 'Dust was profitable. Not huge money but in good shape and Boyd would have been in great position post recession to really bring it forward enough to keep it relevant. That was bad decision to close. IIRC, Westward Ho was under some stress at the time it closed but I can't remember how bad it was. The Frontier was profitable - Ruffin just got an offer he couldn't refuse. I guess the Boardwalk was profitable too but I never really paid that much attention to it.
     
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    Hands down, the DI. I loved the place.
     
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    When what is now called the JW Marriott/Rampart casino opened, it was the modern DI. Moderately sized. Low-key vibe with smooth service, nice architecture and grounds, beautiful pool complex, the best ROH rooms in Vegas by far at the time, awesome spa, and small chic casino that was round with the tables comfortably arrayed across a step down floor in the middle of the casino. The buffet -- acclaimed by those who say they know that kind of stuff -- was upstairs, with windows and expansive views, and the eateries, bars and nightspot were higher end. Golf wasn't exactly stroll out the back door, but several of Vegas' better public plays were at hand. Oh, can't forget the book, it was awesome. Small but awesome.

    Sadly the location and then the economy took its tool. The hotel remains with far-better-than-standard accommodations, and the grounds/pool/spa are holding the line. The casino died when it was re-born, just another blue-hair joint choked with smoke, shit packed in everywhere, and they even filled in the tables floor. A top-end steakery was replaced with a middling-casino standard chophouse, the cigar and whiskey lounge is toast, the nightclub died early on and while I've walked by the relocated buffet many many times, there is no interest; it seems another three-for-one coupon joint. Spiedini still stands one of our favorite restaurants over the years, the sushi place works just fine and the JW's "coffee shop" fills the niche.

    Anyway, probably too many words. But Vegas had a "new" DI in intent and spirit, even if not on the Strip, even if compromised by other forces.
     
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    This is a good question.
    I never stayed in a DI room,
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    Tropicana
    Many years ago -
    I stayed in a tower room there.,,,,,,,circa 1993-4-5 ?
    I had a view of MBAY ( I think ?)
    but this room was SO OLD SCHOOL - I was amazed !
    The furniture was vintage and ornate,
    There were thin/wispy floor to ceiling drapes ---
    everything looked like many years past --- but somehow still in very good shape !
    I was truly amazed,,,,,,I knew I was stepping back in time,
    I never asked about the room,,,I SHOULD HAVE !
    I stayed there again,,,,,,but never in a room like that,
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    That was a unique experience --
    and who would have thought ,,,,Tropicana ?
    It was getting such bad reviews back then,,,,,,I guess. in hind sight cos it wasn't
    the new /hip shiny joint ?,,,,,,,,,,,,,Pool garden was nice, too,
     
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    I agree with other people about Desert Inn. Class.
    But comparing the rates to other Vegas Hotels in 1975 (couple of years before i ventured), many other Hotels in 1975 were more expensive (like Circus Circus) : http://gaming.unlv.edu/Xanadu/h3.jpg
     
  17. TAR456

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    Wait, really? But which at 1970s-80s were luxurier? Tropicana (was like Tiffany on the Strip), Caesars Palace, MGM/Ballys or Desert Inn?
     
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    I was late to the game, but no mention of the first high rise on the Strip, the Riviera?
     
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    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    DI was nice...I never stayed there, but played there a few times.
    In the pre-Mirage days, I've stayed at Stardust, Riviera, the old MGM, the old LVH, Westward Ho, Caesar's, Harrah's, Flamingo, IP & Dunes. As for 'room size', they were all about the same for a 'standard' room....and about the same as you'd find today at Harrah's, Bally's or Flamingo.
    I loved the Stardust, so I realize my bias... I can tell you that the Riv & Ho were not even close in quality to the Dust, Dunes or MGM... and I always imagine that the DI was nicer than all of them...it just had that "quality" feel about the place.
    Caesar's room was "nicer" than those at the Dust, but they never comped me, so I only stayed there once, on a friend's comp. I was never really comfortable in that place...some things never change!
    Las Vegas Hilton was really quite nice... had a 'more luxurious' feel to it - including the casino - than all of the others (except for DI).
    The "strip" from the 80s & 90s was truly my strip-era... I miss those days terribly!
     
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    So, in past Caesars were not luxury hotel as today, and Stardust has a quality of Monte Carlo today...?
     
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