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Las Vegas Makes Its Case For An NHL Team

Discussion in 'Casino Industry & Development' started by seneca7, Sep 28, 2015.

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  1. seneca7

    seneca7 Low-Roller

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    Las Vegas and Quebec City have moved a step closer in their bids to land a NHL franchise.

    NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly says groups from both cities are scheduled to make presentations to the league's executive committee in New York on Tuesday. 9/29

    Daly says the executive committee will then report to the NHL board of governors, though there is no defined timeline to make any decisions.

    A Bill Foley-led group and Montreal-based communications giant Quebecor are in the third and final stage of a process to potentially bring the NHL to Las Vegas and Quebec City, respectively.

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/13763060/las-vegas-quebec-city-set-take-step-nhl-expansion-bid
     
  2. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    that's the entire article, lol.
     
  3. bardolator

    bardolator Lifelong Low Roller

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    NHL would be a good entertainment option, especially since tickets would likely be much cheaper than headline entertainment is in Vegas.
     
  4. ronc

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    NHL tickets are not cheap until you get to the nosebleeds. Lower bowl tickets often sell for over $100, clubs a bit more, and the upper bowl in the $20-$50 range. That is cheaper than many shows but it isn't the "cheap" ticket that it used to be. The fairly high pay for players and lack of any significant TV deal (it just isn't all that popular to watch on TV in the US) means that the tickets have to be higher to pay the bills.

    I like NHL hockey but I do think expansion in every sport brings you to the point that the talent level drops for the entire league.

    I will go to a game if there is a team in Vegas; I likely would plan it around a Capitals game since they are my favorite team.
     
  5. Nevyn

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    Its a pretty simple argument to make.


    1) We'll pay your expansion fee, and you owners love collecting that
    2) If we struggle early, you can use that excuse to hammer the PA again in CBA negotiations.
    3) Locals have no other major sports franchise to support
    4) If the locals won't support us, we have loads of tourists who'll come in to cheer the road team.
     
  6. h0und10

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    id plan it so I can cheer on my fav team when there in town as well.
    it would be awesome if some of the bigger casinos were sponsors and had tickets to give away to gamblers as comps. instead of a free buffet, tickets to a hockey game!
     
  7. waverunner

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    As someone who grew up skating on ponds in Boston, and being an NHL fan with die hard loyalties my Bruins and Kings, this is going to happen soon to Vegas. I am ecstatic knowing that very, very, soon the LA Rams are coming back to LA and soon there will be an NHL team in Vegas. http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/sep/29/nhl-vegas-expansion-foley-mgm/

    Also, the odds in Vegas for the Rams back in LA is -250
    The Chargers are +3 and the Raiders are +4.
    Meaning it's almost a slam dunk for the LA Rams shoveling dirt in December in Inglewood.
     
  8. h0und10

    h0und10 Low-Roller

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    why can't La keep a football team there? havn't they had a few?
     
  9. ken2v

    ken2v This Space For Rent

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    Ennui. Too much other stuff to do. Immensely transitory population. The kind of place where people do just fine without thinking they need to put up with the fiscal and feudal assault of the NFL. You name it.

    Hell, USC is the best-compensated team in the Southland, anyway. ;)
     
  10. Nevyn

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    Crappy stadium in a crappy part of the city with crappy fans who would have to go through crappy trafiic to go there and watch mainly crappy teams.

    Oh, and Al Davis being Al Davis
     
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    Because that witch who owned the team moved the Rams to a baseball field in the OC. Her husband, Carroll Rosenbloom, RIP, wanted to keep the Rams in LA, but she poisoned him and was paid off to land in her hometown St.Louis. She is somewhere in heck now.
    Stan Kroenke wanted to buy the Dodgers a few years ago. Stan is a real estate developer plus a team owner along with his sons.
    Stan bought 300 acres at Hollywood Park for a Stadium, Retail, Parks, Hotel, Lakes, etc for the sole purpose of having a project that will be unlike any other. Money talks, money doesn't talk in St.Louis, it speaks volumes in LA with PTL's.
    City of Champions Stadium in Inglewood is also right adjacent to the Forum, where the Lakers and Kings used to play. The Forum still hosts the VMA's and concerts like U2 and the Stones.
    The Rams owner will have his team projected to be valued at 3 billion plus when he moves to LA come December where they're about to break ground.
    Stan doesn't want anything to do with St.Louis because they broke the lease agreement guaranteeing a top tier stadium. That's why he's moving the Rams back where they belong, a 50 year history where the LA Rams were always at the top or near the top of attendance until they moved to the OC where that witch finally moved away to Misery. And also because his team doubles in value when he gets to LA. The LA Rams will play the first two years (2016/17) at that treasure trove the Coliseum, then in 2018 the new City of Champions Stadium.
     
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    Thought this was a thread about the NHL prospects in Vegas? Another thread derailed... shocker.
     
  13. ken2v

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    Hockey would be good for Vegas and QC.

    There, order restored.
     
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    Don't have a problem with Vegas getting a team. But I wonder if expansion is a good move for the NHL or any other major league for that matter.
     
  15. ken2v

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    And that's just it, as a few have pointed out. At what point does the second line play like the fourth? Too many Kaepernicks and not enough Bradys? Hell, starting pitchers already are treated like the most fragile bit of porcelain ever made, so what happens when you dip the net deeper and deeper?

    Maybe a good thing for casual fans but not seasoned followers?

    Screw it, my Ducks suck. Football is done for the year. lol
     
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    If and when the competition gets too diluted, i believe it will be too easy for a handful of top tier players to "team up" in the off season and all join the same team to dominate. Kind of like basketball, but with rookies not making quite the impact as they do in say basketball, it will take way to long for franchises to turn around when they are not doing great.
     
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    I don't believe that sports teams are getting diluted population growth has kept up with expansion not to mention that scouting has moved from national to international. Fitness, coaching, nutrition has all advanced tremendously and we are seeing the best athletes that have ever played the game. If you want to look at pitchers not being able to go as many innings it is because they are they are throwing harder and more junk then ever before.
     
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    Much trickier in hockey than basketball. More players on a team, and a cap less accepting of loading up on stars. Now and then someone takes a short term below market deal to try to win. But it would take a lot of free agents willing to play out their deals, walk, and then take short term deals to put together a hockey superteam.

    As to dilution in general, it has already happened before. The previous hockey expansions got a lot of blame from players (like Mario Lemieux) from a trend to big, slow guys playing boring hockey in trapping systems.
     
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    I call BS on the dilution thing. I have played and seen a lot of hockey over the years. Like other sports,the players are stronger, faster, larger than any time in the past. I would almost put any team today up against Stanley cup winners pre-1980ish. I shudder at the size and skill level i see today. The players from Canada represented 80% of the NHL in 1980 and that number is now down to just under 50%. The significant growth in the US and number of Europeans, especially eastern Europe since the wall came down has more than made up for any dilution that has occurred with expansion.
     
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    If NHL comes to Vegas and it catches on.. watch for other sports to want to move in. Especially the NBA since that new stadium would make a great home.
     
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