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Keno and Pai Gow as Alternates for Slow Day at Slots

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by Texas Gramma, Nov 10, 2013.

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  1. Texas Gramma

    Texas Gramma Low-Roller

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    I see in posts that you some of you play keno with small bankrolls. I would like to play some keno numbers on my Christmas trip... one of those where you pick your choices and play them for several games... what would you suggest for my best strategy and/or picks?
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    Any particular numbers that you like to choose?
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    I am going to try venturing out into Keno and Pai Gow Mania as my alternates for when I am having a slow day at slots... it seems to me I could play a long time at either one without losing a lot of my bankroll... and I can't stand to not be playing something all the time while I am in Vegas. Any advice would be appreciated!!!
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  2. The Furry One

    The Furry One Low-Roller

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    Can't help you with Keno, not a huge fan of that myself, but will say that whilst Pai Gow is generally a slower game and one that often involves a reasonable percentage of pushes there is no guarantee that your bankroll won't take a hard hit same as any other game. I've had some cracking sessions where I just couldn't seem to lose more than the occasional deal for an hour or two before the table went cold on me but I've also had some real nightmares where not only are winning hands hard to come by but even a push has been a rare occurrence.

    Don't let me put you off trying Pai Gow - I love the game and far more often than not I get a decent amount of play in relation to my session bankroll and have finished ahead probably about as often as I finish down - just didn't want you thinking that the worst that can happen is a slow bleed.

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  3. HAWJOHN

    HAWJOHN Tourist

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    Keno is a great game to take a break with friends. During our younger years, I used to meet up with friends at the Cal Keno area. They had great cocktail service. If you bet 21 or more consecutive games betting the same numbers, you need not check the board and can return any time within a year to check/claim your ticket.

    I used to bet their 80 cents special x 25 games for 20 dollars. Getting all five numbers correct pays a thousand dollars. You may bet a lesser or greater amount or have combinations on your card. Keno runs about 8 games an hour so we had a good opportunity to chat and catch up. One of my selection process was the last two digits of the birth of myself, wife and three children. If the numbers do not match, then bet the ages. Some bet patterns on the card/board. Any system is okay since I believe it is just luck.

    I read on another thread of a couple with a small bankroll, but enjoyed gambling. They had a fun time betting one line, one credit for a penny a pull. A dollar lasted a long time. May be you can do this while playing and watching your numbers on the keno board (if they still have them on the floor)
     
  4. Corinne

    Corinne Low-Roller

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    I have found that 3 Card Poker without the Pairs Plus and the 6 Card Bonus makes my money last quite a while. Dealers aren't keen though presumably because you aren't getting a nice win and they don't get a really good tip, lol. Others tell you that you really should play it but when I'm there to just play and not really to make a fortune it suits me and when my $100 is still there and the others are either out of money or up a fair bit I am still happy if I've only lost or won a little for a lot of fun. Suits me and sometimes I do play the bonus bets but not always. Might be a thought for you.
     
  5. Ty

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    I often play Keno and drink coffee in the mornings while I wait for my wife to finish dressing. We also play if we eat in the coffee shop.

    From what I've read picks of 4 spots has the best chance of hitting followed by picks of 1 spot.
     
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  6. Aw234

    Aw234 Low-Roller

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    Our gambling staple is Video Poker and Pai Gow. If one isn't working I'll move to the other. I really like the social part of a Pai Gow table and the other players really don't have an effect on your hand. It's all gambling so anything can happen but our bankroll seems to last longer.


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  7. DeMoN2318

    DeMoN2318 The DERS

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    When I need to slow down I play Caveman Keno on one of the game king machines. The wizard says selecting 4 numbers maximizes you chances(minimizes the HA)...you dont have a chance for the giant pay out like you would with 10 numbers, but I have hit all 4 a few times
     
  8. Texas Gramma

    Texas Gramma Low-Roller

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    Thank you guys!

    I found a place I can practice Caveman Keno and it looks like a lot of fun...
    http://www.videopoker.com/play/?game=100&title=Caveman%20Keno
    I already belonged to this site to play/practice video poker, but had never noticed that keno games were also available.
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    It looks like the 4 pick can pay up to $810... that enough for me! Two picks gets your money back... not bad! Thank you for telling me about it...!!!
     
  9. WrongWayWade

    WrongWayWade VIP Whale

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    The side bets at 3-card poker have some of the biggest rakes of any table game. Pair plus with the 1-3-6-30-40 table is 7.28%, and the 6-card bonus (CET with the $1,000,000 thing) is 18.09%. Yeouch.

    When they first invented the game, the Pair Plus was 1-4-6-30-40 everywhere which is only 2.32%. Just by shifting the flush to 3 instead of 4 increased the edge by 5%.
     
  10. NickyDim

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    I play keno from time to time. I like to put in my bets then check them later in the day.

    At Bally's they have 2-bit-X where you can play for a quarter a game and you pick from 5 to 8 numbers and play a minimum of 21 games for 5.25. I saw someone play 2-bit-8 (8 numbers) and hit for $10,000 on a .25 bet. It was unbelievable. He had the last two columns on the bottom (49,59,69,79,50,60,70,80). I come up to the counter and say to the girl, look at that, as easy as picking 2 columns, and she say that guy, and she points to the guy next to me, has it and shows me the card. He played 100 games for $25.

    I usually wheel 4 numbers or 4 cards of 3 (the game is called kings), so if you hit 3 out of 4 you win top prize of 3for3($46) instead of $3 on 3of4.
    if your numbers are 1,2,3,4 you play 4 cards of 1,2,3 / 2,3,4 / 1,3,4 / 1,2,4.

    Or I play 6 numbers broken into 3 cards of 4. all examples are $1 ticket.
    say the numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6 (obviously in any of these examples you can pick your own numbers)

    NUMBER: 1 2 3 4 5 6
    Ticket 1: 1 2 3 4 X X
    Ticket 2: 1 2 X X 5 6
    Ticket 3: X X 3 4 5 6

    You need 2 of 6 for any pay, 3 of 6 for a win and 4 of 6 might give you 4 out of 4 ($120) for you $3 bet, 6 of 6 to win all three. Sometimes I'll play all 6 as a 4th card, especially if they have .50/ticket, for a total of $2 a game.



    Hope that helps. Anything more than 4 numbers though is usually just kissing your money good bye.

    good luck
     
  11. Texas Gramma

    Texas Gramma Low-Roller

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    That was a great idea... I tried it on videopoker.com... by choosing a 4 card keno game I practiced with the 1-6 numbers and in just a few spins, got enough hits to keep from getting bored and had a couple of biggies. Thanks for the tip.
     
  12. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Donk, Donk, Donk, Donk, Dink, Donk, Donk, Dink, Donk, Donk!

    Play that next to someone playing video poker and watch the fun! :evillaugh

    My first ever keno game I bothered to play in a casino in June. It was 2:45am, I was drunk, put in a $5 bill and told myself, what the hell.

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    Believe it or not, I didn't all of a sudden become a keno addict. :evillaugh Why? This paytable in the picture returns 88.29%.

    The paytables at videopoker.com are more generous than what you usually will find at most casinos (particularly the strip I assume). The four-spot game on Caveman Keno at videopoker.com pays 1/5/81 betting units for 2/3/4 hits respectively and pays back 96.66%.

    If you are actually planning to play this for $10 a game (the bet needed for a $810 win by matching 4 of 4), :eek::eek::eek: I'd recommend learning video poker instead. The variance of the game can rival a slot machine, especially if you play a higher number of spots. The main benefit of keno is the slower pace of play, but video keno can still be played quite quickly.

    And just playing around with this on videopoker.com...i hit 4 of 4 within 20 plays...dammit...:eek:
     
  13. Texas Gramma

    Texas Gramma Low-Roller

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    You are right tringlomane...
    It was late at night and my brain was almost asleep... I would normally not bet more than $1 on a keno game, so I suppose that would be $81 instead of $810... my bad! Thanks for pointing my mathematical error out to me.
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    I am not planning on doing a lot of keno... just adding it to the variety of things I like to do.
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    I like to play a long time. With a small BR, I like to have options if I am having no luck on slots or blackjack, my favorites. I'll be there 5 days and 2 half days and I would like to come home with some of my BR... for another casino trip locally this spring.
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    I love craps also, but I have to be ahead on something else first, because it takes more money to stay on the crap table for a round or two of rolling the dice. Any suggestions for lasting longer at craps when you are waiting to roll the dice?
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    Good luck to you!
     
  14. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED !địt mẹ!

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    LOL, here's my "mega" hit while ABSOLUTELY low rolling! (I had $1 left, haha, decided to make it last)
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  15. GeorgeJ.

    GeorgeJ. Low-Roller

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    I don't play Keno all that much but did get a $200+ win on a 25 cent machine at Harrahs 5 or 6 years back.

    It was one of the KENO versions where your payout could be doubled -- if you hit on the first number drawn it'd double the payout if you got anything?

    The cocktail waitress came by just as I sat down and before she brought back my beer, I had the win.

    I usually just play penny KENO to waste time without losing too much..
     
  16. Arlene

    Arlene Low-Roller

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    Hi;

    I enjoy playing Keno during breakfast at the TI coffee shop. On a slow day, I'll play in the TI keno lounge/sports book. I'll usually bet a 2 number or 4 number ticket x 20 games or so. Seems that 2 or 4 numbers is easiest to win on. Good luck! :wave:

    Arlene:beer:
     
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