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Jackpot using someone else's card

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by Corinne, May 12, 2013.

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  1. Corinne

    Corinne Low-Roller

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    Am intending to have my friend use a duplicate card of mine for a week or so when we are there together to ensure I get Platinum at CET for next year.

    Question is, do the casinos care if you hit a hand pay and you are not playing on your own card or do we need to remember to remove it before they pay out.?

    Thanks
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  2. Auggie

    Auggie Dovahkiin

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    No, whatever card is in the card reader doesn't matter. If you hit a hand pay the attendant will come up, remove the card and put it down on the machine or hand it to you so they can put their key card in the reader.

    What card is in the machine can't matter because just consider the problems that would come up if somebody put their card in and was playing a machine and then got up and left their card behind and you went up and started playing and because you don't have a card you don't even bother checking the card reader if there is one in there or not.
     
  3. Corinne

    Corinne Low-Roller

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    Many thanks Auggie. That's what I thought but better to be sure.
     
  4. JWBlue

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    I don't know for sure, but I think they would care. I don't believe the want two people accumulation reward points on one card.

    If a jackpot is won and an ID is requested for tax purposes, it might be a problem.

    It makes sense to me, but I could be wrong.

    A call to the player's club desk might be a good idea.
     
  5. Joe

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    I agree with Auggie on this. They take out your card and insert theirs. My wife and I play on the same card all the time and every hand pay she has ever had while playing with my card, they have never cared.

    If your friend hits a hand pay, they are going to want her ID, not yours.
     
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  6. smartone

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    I asked my host this question once when my wife accompanied (a rare occurrence as she hates to fly) me to Vegas. He told me, "the company line is that it's against the rules to use multiple cards for the same account and it's in the fine print of any rewards program." He then said, "the reality is, no one cares." I think you're safe.
     
  7. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    there's never anything wrong with multiple people playing on the same card. you can even do this with table games by requesting the pit boss to rate 2 of you together. they couldn't care less where the points go.
     
  8. The Furry One

    The Furry One Low-Roller

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    They've never even looked at whether the card matched the id presented when we've got a hand pay and I can only speak for our base casino in Vegas but when talking to a host at the end of a trip to see what extra comps we might have earned they actually ask whether we have individual cards or play on the same one (it's the latter and we quite happily tell them so).

    Furry
     
  9. RebelDiceMan

    RebelDiceMan High-Roller

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    I know this sounds simplistic but why not just remove the card from the machine before the attendant gets there ? I am sure that they could probably pull up the card # out of the computer but I have never seen them really care about what card was in there. What they want to see is some photo ID to take care of the tax obligations.
     
  10. CCaroleann

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    I hit a Jackpot in Caesars Atlantic City while playing on my Mom's card. I did quick take out her card and put in mine before they came. A girl took all my ID and Players card and said she would be right back. 10 minutes later she came back and said there was a problem and a manager would be over to help me. First thing he asked was do you know whose card you were playing? I said yes it was my Mom's (I have them together on a chain) and that I must have gotten them mixed up. He said again "You do know this person and the card wasn't just left wasn't in the machine." Again I said yes. He seemed satisfied and paid me.

    What I'm really thinking is, when the Jackpot hits, the card that was in the machine feeds them your/their personal info. The W-2 is then pretty much good to go after getting some ID.

    I don't think it would be a problem. I hope you get the chance to find out. Good Luck!!
     
  11. mrstealth

    mrstealth High-Roller

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    CCaroleann, is right on.

    Don't try switching at the last minute. If you should be so lucky as to win a single jackpot of $1199 or more, just let them know that it wasn't your card - and they will then ask for id & ss card to complete the W-2G reporting form.
     
  12. wpete

    wpete High-Roller

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    Just tell your friend to remove your duplicate card if he/she hits before the attendant gets there.
     
  13. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    1 - Calling the players club is probably the worst idea here. There answer has a 50/50 chance of even being accurate. And, whatever answer they give, is going to be the casino side. It has little to do with reality.

    2 - When I hit a jackpot - many of them - I put my card and DL on the machine, and it is not even IN the slot when they come. If it was someone elses card, it is now in my pocket.

    It is not an issue. Been there many times.
     
  14. Scorcho

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    Hit a $4500 handpay last year while me and a buddy were playing a Quick Hit machine. His card was in the machine.

    When we won, I asked if I could accept the W2-G form in my name, as I can write the entire amount off in April with gambling losses.

    The attendants both said that they have to issue the W2-G to the owner of whichever card was in the machine when the handpay hit, so long as it's obviously one of us and not some random card left in the machine.

    This was at Harrah's Reno. Slightly different situation than the one OP posted, but adds a little more information to the story.
     
  15. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Maybe.

    I have been told they have to issue it to the "butt in seat". I know they have issued ME W2-g's when my wife's card was in the machine more than once.

    If you wanted it in YOUR name, then all you had to do was to tell them it is your jackpot. Even though the person that BET MONEY is the winner, it is not like they watch every single machine. I have often been 10-20 ft away when they show up to do the paperwork and I have to walk over and say it is my win. I have actually watched people sit down at a machine that was waiting for a slot person and they try to play. I just chuckle. Once they the slot tech even asked the person sitting there if it was there jackpot. They were very confused. Funny stuff.
     
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    My wife only plays using my card and with her last 5 hand pays in Vegas, there were no questions. I totally agree with the "butt in the chair" theory.

    Vegas is the only place we gamble, so I can't speak of other locations.
     
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  17. Corinne

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    Thanks to everyone for your help. I don't think I will lose any sleep over it now and just hope the situation actually arises!
     
  18. vegasvette

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    Sorry to confuse the issue even more. But, what if the jackpot was won using freeplay loaded on someone else's card? Not a spouse, but a relative with a different last name, and is clearly not in the casino with you.

    My example is that every month, at a local tribal casino, a certain amount of freeplay is loaded onto the card of every person over 50 years old. I take my card and the cards of my in laws, and play the freeplay, splitting any winnings at the end of the month.

    What if i were using an in laws card and playing their freeplay, and hit a jackpot? Has anyone experienced this, and if so, were you paid the jackpot?
     
  19. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Using someone else's freeplay. If they were checking, they could cause a real stink - including getting banned or maybe even some legal action. As noted above, I play with my wifes card often and have done jackpots. But, that is with my own money. (maybe, I have used her freeplay as well...hmmmm)

    I would stay away from machines that have high payouts while using that freeplay. Should not be hard to do. I would say that a very high number of machines have a top payout under $1,200.
     
  20. LOCALGAMBLER77

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    Nevada Gaming Law

    I am not a lawyer, but if I understand Nevada Gaming Law correctly, the Casino Bonus Program (your card) can have nothing at all to do with the spins of the slot machine in the sense of winning or losing. In other words, the machine will pay you whatever it is going to pay you with or without a card. Therefore, they cannot deny you a jackpot because someone else's card in the slot. BUT, of course they can confiscate the card if they wish if it is not your card -- but they still have to pay you the jackpot if you are over 21.
     
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