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Is it worth getting a casino host.

Discussion in 'Comps' started by voltron12, Aug 13, 2012.

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  1. voltron12

    voltron12 Low-Roller

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    I have never had a host and at my level, is it worth getting one.

    1. I go to vegas 5-6 times a year. Usually 1-2 6-10 days trips, and the rest 3-4. I have always just used the CET online offers which get me a couple free rooms comped here and there. Or mlife which is about the same, 1-2 nights comped and others discounted.

    2. I play poker, and play 4-8 hours a day at bj and pai gow. 25-50 a bet average. I never play slots and have noticed the past year mlife offers are getting to be better than CET offers. I also played in 4 WSOP events, but figure that doesnt help my rating at CET at all.

    So, at this kind of level, is it even worth getting a host to talk to or just keep looking at the online offers from mlife and CET. If anyone else is getting decent offers at this level with a host, let me know know his or her name. I also spend a good amount of money on high end dinners every trip at these properties.
     
  2. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    Voltron, I can only speak for MGM. There, at your level, it is probably not worth it unless you are playing at their lower end properties (Excal, Luxor, Monte Carlo). When I played at that level, I got a little interest from hosts at Luxor and MC, but they weren't able to do much for me. And what they did, they weren't very enthusiastic about. Which I always thought reflected more on the fact that they were a host at Luxor and, sadly, my two or three green chips on the don't pass line made me the largest bettor in the casino on a Thursday night :faint:

    If you move up to betting black chips, you will get a bit more attention at those proerties (and NYNY and maybe a little attention at Mirage). Play more than one black chip and you will get some attention at MGM mid and upper tier properties.

    Hope that helps
     
  3. Auggie

    Auggie Dovahkiin

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    If this is all you are getting right now then its highly unlikely a host will do anything for you - they don't work out of the goodness of their own hearts or have X number of free rooms and so many dollars worth of comps that they have to give away each day.

    Breaking it down:

    Your poker play is really worth nothing to the casino because you are playing against other players and the rake isn't much to the casino: sometimes it might seem like they are raking a lot but you have to remember that the value of the rake is evenly distributed between all players at the table - they don't know if you won 9 of the last 10 pots or 0 of the last 20. So if they have 8 people at a table and they rakes the last hand for $5 then effectively they made $0.62 off each player. When you factor in dealer costs, chips and cards, table space, floorman, hostess, drinks, etc... there just isn't much leftover to put as value to the players.

    For your table game play if you just figure a 1% house edge overall betting $25 a hand means the casino's expectation is to make $0.25 per hand off you: at 60 hands per hour thats about $15. If you play for four hours a day your value to the casino would be about $60 a day. Maybe you play up to $50 per hand so you are probably ending up in the $100-120 per day range as far as value to the casino... and thats pretty much getting close to the starting point where the casinos give out free rooms, which is why you are seeing 1-2 nights comped up front on a 4-6 night trip.
     
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