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I won about $8k!

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by weluvvegas, Apr 4, 2013.

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  1. weluvvegas

    weluvvegas Vegas Slot Junkie

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    Playing craps....ok well it wasn't in Vegas, it was at a work function and the money wasn't real, it was a casino party. BUT, the playing was and it felt so good to just bet on whatever I wanted with whatever amount I wanted. I did pretty good too. Started with about $1.5 k and ended up with almost $8k.

    I thought I knew how to play craps pretty well but since I can only ever afford to play the line bet with odds in Vegas, I did learn some other tips that I wasn't aware of before. I'm going to try out the bubble craps machine this time and try some new bets. How are the downtown minimums on those things usually?
     
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  2. Ezzy711

    Ezzy711 Low-Roller

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    Congrats! A win is a win and feels good even if it isn't real. You new found skills and confidence will make it happen for real.
     
  3. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I was playing Texas Holdem on Buzztime at a bar the other night. Took $2,000 seed money to just over $7k in about an hour. Wish I could do half as good in real games.
     
  4. Jersey_Bill

    Jersey_Bill High-Roller

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    Yeah, I have had two royals to date on my VP trainers (at the $5 level) and none yet in real life. THAT WILL CHANGE in two weeks.... :evillaugh

    It's funny, I haven't reset my WinPoker user statistics in a while and it's kind of fun to examine the stats in a "long term average" sense.... My balance has been over $50k playing at the $5 level for some time -

    • Hands played - 71,036
    • Cash bet - $1,522,920
    • Cash Won - $1,563,950
    • % Payback - 102.69%
    • % correct - 89.67%
    • Best return - 369,601
    • My return - 357,614
    • % of best play - 96.76%
    • Long term cost - $48,705

    Funny how I typically stay below the "90% correct mark" in terms of correct play but still achieve almost 97% of best play in terms of outcomes, and a persistent positive payback. I suspect a couple of $5 royals helped push that stat upward.

    Anyway, I have often wondered if WinPoker is really as perfect simulator of the normal VP engines we see in machines - since I never see this kind of persistent positive variance. Maybe that's the case - but it's also true that I am often never playing with a bankroll large enough to counter the the variance of DDB at the $5 level. With WinPoker, you have an endless bankroll to manage that long term variance....

    JZB
     
  5. alexanbo

    alexanbo High-Roller

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    Most of your errors are probably picking something that is like 0.05% worse then optimal which means the % of best play isn't affected as much.

    For example say you played 100 hands and made 1 mistake that cost 0.05% of EV.

    Then you'd have a 99% correct rate but would of had a % of best play of 99.95%
     
  6. LV_Bound

    LV_Bound VIP Whale

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    I stopped playing the online slots, craps and VP because it seemed like I will do well there and it would skew my expectations when playing the actual game and get disappointed.

    I prefer the real deal.
     
  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Um looking at his stats, this isn't the case. He isn't even getting a 97% return when errors are factored in. So he is making significant errors. If he plays DDB, he definitely breaks 2 pair with any high pair for example. (Correct play for DDB is to always hold 2 pair, except when it's Aces.) Doing this on a good 9/6 DDB paytable like I expect WinPoker to have would be a pretty big error. Turn the warning mode on!

    And don't feel too bad Bill, my "first ever Royal" was on WinPoker as well, and I am still waiting on a Royal on nickels or quarters. :( I definitely have done better on these simulators as well, but not enough to assume it wasn't bad luck on my part.
     
  8. Jersey_Bill

    Jersey_Bill High-Roller

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    I do have warning mode on but when you get it wrong with a warning it still records the error (not sure if it does, though, if you peek at the solution). Don't think any of my errors are with two pair - as I almost never see that error - but I frequently see it with two unsuited high cards versus an ace, and I don't understand how WinPoker is working that strategy. Sometimes it will want the ace and other times the two unsuited high cards (not related to whether a 10 or a straight or straight flush draw exists). Until I figure that out, that is something that keeps surfacing. Otherwise, it's mainly just being careless and missing straight or flush draws I think. Most of the time, the error value is not great - but it adds up.

    For my trip in a week I have been pounding WinPoker hard and have sharpened things up a good deal. Almost seeing no warning errors in the last few days....

    JZB
     
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