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I need Dwindling Comp Strategy for recovery

Discussion in 'Comps' started by bubbakitty, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty native Texan; born and bred.

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    I wrote an earlier post asking what to do about dwindling offers with competent play when I took them up on the offer. Quickly, Gold Coast a year ago offered 50 $ a day food and 100 $ free play per stay. Always two nights anytime. Now, two nights anytime with the above offers downsizing each quarter to nada. This is all in mailers and offers through b-connected.

    A friend suggested not playing there anymore and see if that showed up on the radar. He felt if I was going to play there anyway why would they offer.

    Still like to play and drink there when staying at the Orleans or GC. Play is similar to other properties (8-10,000 coin in 25 cent vp mostly). I am stuck as offers of 2 nights for the play makes me want to concentrate play at MSS and / or Orleans. The O has always been any two nights, 25 $ food per stay and a 25 $ free table bet (even money pay). O has terrible paytables but love the craps and rooms as well as Prime Rib Loft.

    So if I don’t play GC is there a thought they would bump up the offers in the future (?) as they could also dry up and blow away. Any ideas or previous experience? Thanks.
     
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  2. TIMSPEED

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    I would imagine GC just stepped up their play requirements for the level you WERE at...I'd say ask a host..but youd never get a straight answer.
    I can't imagine GC wanting more than 10k per day.. but it is certainly possible that the theo on the machines you play has been reset to a lower amount than before..
     
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  3. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty native Texan; born and bred.

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    Thought that would be the answer but not from YOU! Aren't you supposed to be "nose to the grindstone and all that" already?
    But thanks anyway......as a famous man once said: beginning to think the damn system's corrupt!!
     
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    Staying away may work. I played a couple of times at the Wynn way back when. I have always gotten email from them. The offers keep getting better. Not great, since I'm basically uncompable but still some free buffets and reduced room rates.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    bubbakitty native Texan; born and bred.

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    It has been raining for 3 days so too much coffee I am sure. Saw your reply about 11:30 cdt and figured you should be at work by that time pdt unless still commuting. Damn caffeine.
     
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    I am starting to get the feeling that "offers" are generated by some computerized flow chart that could end up having any number of relevant or irrelevant factors, some of which we would be hard pressed to guess. Most of us are just getting scraps off the table, even if it is sometimes steak.
     
  8. zignerlv

    zignerlv Low-Roller

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    Did you have a significant win during that time period before the offers started dwindling?
     
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    He's hit a couple 50c royals...and I think maybe a $1 royal?
     
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    bubbakitty native Texan; born and bred.

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    Yes. A couple of .25 and one .50 and wife won a bar top progressive on my card last X-mas although they used her I.d. For tax purposes. I don't see it comparable to a "wise" bj player. Aren't they supposed to entice me to give it back. Over the long term I must. It's the math after all.
     
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    Not Vegas but I notice when I stay at the Horseshoe in Bossier City I would get a $35 of free play and $20 food credit for the Harrah's racetrack casino. After taking them up on it a couple times the free play dropped to $5 so I stopped making the drive over since it is slots only and I mostly play VP. After a couple of trips of not paying them a visit the free play jumped back up to $40. I notice my last offer the free play is back to $5 but I not planning on a trip back until next year since I trying to convince the wife that a December Vegas trip is something we need to do.

    Mark
     
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    If true there is another possible explanation for the decline in offers for the OP. In my situation, I didn't realize the reason until recently, but my offers dropped big time at one Boyd property I played at. My average play per day on my last trip was close to a record high there, yet my offers dropped way down, suddenly, a couple of months later. So, I stopped playing there, and now, a year later without any play there, my offers have jumped back up to where they were over a year ago. I remembered that on that last trip I hit a nice progressive royal. I am now pretty sure that it was due to the win on that trip that my offers suffered, and once the win was more than a year in the past (aged off the system), my great offers are back. I know some will say that this was a "we miss you" kind of thing. I don't believe so, as my offers were consistent good for 3 years or so before this win.

    It's ridiculous, but I think Boyd takes wins/losses into consideration (more so wins than losses) in coming up with offer levels. One would think that these sophisticated multi billion dollar companies would understand that even someone who knows nothing about video poker will hold 3 to a royal flush and occasionally hit one. Why hold it against the customer for being lucky?

    Anyway, this concept of penalizing winners is not rare. On another board, 2-3 years ago there were many people who chimed in that Stations was doing this same thing, even more drastically, as they would stop sending mailers to someone who won big (royal, etc) in video poker.
     
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    I spoke with some sort of promotions manager at Sam's (younger slim build black gentleman) and he absolutely said sams cares about losses.
     
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    bubbakitty native Texan; born and bred.

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    Thanks for the responses and I think abstention is probably my best option although I greatly enjoyed the GC. Will report back if offers change over the next year (that's how long it took to go zap). Tim, glad to see you are being productive in your commute. Love the BART...Good luck all!
     
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