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I knew I should have said no

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by technolight, May 6, 2012.

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  1. technolight

    technolight Low-Roller

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    In sept we are going to vegas for our 5th trip.

    2 years ago we went with my father and 2 daughters and had a blast.

    So much so that my wifes best friend had been hinting that she wants to come on this trip , and after a fair bit of badgering from my wife I , and I am not sure if it was reluctantly said yes

    Boy am I living to regret that idea , now I do not mind doing all the planning , in fact I love it , so on with the planning , which shows would you like to see , don't know , sent her the a to z and out of all the great shows in vegas she picked Chris Angel believe , shot that down in flames , and got her tickets for "O" we do not want to see it as we are cirqued out.

    Now Ive just found out ,

    1) wont be gambling
    2) Does not like relaxing by the pool
    3) Does not want to go on trips to outlying places
    4) Does not like heights (Stratosphere , eifel tower, rio)
    5) is a fussy eater
    6) Doesnt like to walk too far

    Where as we , gamble ,spend mornings at the pool, love going on trips ,dine at the strat and eifel ,will eat a scabby cat if I am hungry, and walk everyehere.

    Need some sugestions as to how easy it would be to lose someone in vegas for 11 days, preferably from the moment we land. And yes I know there is plenty of empty desert around but maybe that's a bit extreme ,,,Maybe!!!!!!
     
  2. shifter

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    so it's you, your wife and her best friend? that sounds like a 3-wheel death ride. your wife is going to be stuck in the middle with everything. sounds like her friend needs to find herself a man to take and then you guys don't have to do everything together.
     
  3. technolight

    technolight Low-Roller

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    Her man was going to come , but decided that Las Vegas was not somewhere that he really wanted to see, tried to tell him but nope he couldn't find any good reason to go , what a couple of boring a******s .And yip you are right I am stuck in the middle, but its my vacation so me and the wife will do what we damn well want ,
     
  4. jhpa

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    Take her to a strip club. Maybe something fun will develop for the three of you. :wink2:
     
  5. Terry Benedict

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    You are not stuck in the middle. Your wife is.

    You may have the opportunity to spend some time alone this trip. And whether you enjoy it or not may be a simple matter of perspective. You may choose to see it as a curse or an opportunity.

    She's your wife's best friend: you may let your wife deal with her. Let her ask her friend why she wants to go to Vegas, send her some links to Vegas sites, and when you get there point them in the right direction, and send them on their way. Let her figure out what they want to do. Yet also demand a small time for you. A nice dinner, a ride up the tower, whatever.

    If she can't really find anything, suggest she might as well cancel her trip. No one wants to spend a thousand bucks on a vacation they have already decided they won't enjoy. It would be simpler to take the hit on cancelling an airline ticket. Or if you booked on Southwest, that's even better. You have about four months to deal with it. Try to relax, it's all good. It's Vegas.
     
  6. chitownjohn

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    I hope she's hot because there's only one thing left. :wink2:
     
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    If her own man didnt want to go to LV with her that should have been a major red flag!! If he didnt think he could have fun and/or tolerate her in Sin City, odds are no one else can either.

    I took my first wife (practice wife as I now call her) to LV in June of 2010, we couldnt get along or have fun together. I knew that was the last straw, I filed for divorce the week after we got back.

    Good luck with all that!
     
  8. technolight

    technolight Low-Roller

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    Well she does like a drink , and I have explained how she can get them for free, maybe when she gets there the bug that we all have will bite her in the ass.

    And yes my wife will be ok to let me off on my own while they do some shopping and I don't mind that in the least.
     
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    I waited a few years longer to divorce my "practice wife" who didn't care for Vegas, but should have much sooner like you did.

    For the OP: you say she doesn't gamble, but has she ever been to Vegas or a casino? None of us ever gambled before the first time! And why does she want to come on the trip, anyway? Good luck guy – it sounds like you're going to need it.
     
  10. leo21

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    I would turn all the trip planning responsibilities over to your wife, I think. She created the situation and should clean it up. I since this was supposed to be your trip together, I think that you guys would be in the right to insist on some time together without the third wheel.
     
  11. Nevyn

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    The beauty of Vegas is that there's tons to do and you aren't responsible for anyone else's good time.

    Make clear stuff that you are planning to do, whether everyone is doing it or not, and that she has the same freedom (she doesn't need you along to go to shows), and try to find some common ground for getting together for meals and such.

    She invited herself of your vacation. She doesn't get to dictate what you do.
     
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    Book negative Nancy a spa day. Maybe that would relax her enough to loosen up and have a little fun.

    Or just take her to Caesar's. Everybody gets lost in there.
     
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    If you love to plan then why don't you plan. Has she ever been to Las Vegas? If not then why bother running everything past her?

    Like these shows: she probably picked Cris Angel because its probably one of the few names, if not the only name, on the list that she recognized that didn't have a sky high ticket price.

    You would have been better off maybe picking 4-5 shows you and your wife would like to see and then doing a 1-2 sentence write up of each one and then letting her pick from that list for what show the three of you go see.

    So? A lot of people go to Las Vegas and don't gamble.

    Just because she won't be gambling doesn't mean you and your wife don't have to gamble. If you pick a couple of quieter casinos out maybe she will enjoy just sitting next to your wife and watching her gamble while they talk?

    Also it is your wife's best friend, you can use this time to let them go and do stuff together while you go off and gamble.

    But does that mean she won't go and relax by the pool?

    She might be saying that from a frame of reference of her life at home. IE: in Las Vegas I personally have no problem laying by the pool for two to three hours and quite enjoy it, but back home I would never do anything like that or just go sit at the beach or go lay in the sun at the park...

    Are you actually talking about going and seeing sites like Hoover Dam or The Grand Canyon? Or are you talking about driving around to crappy little casinos up and down the highway?

    In reference to either one that describes a lot of people that go to Las Vegas.

    If you are talking about outlying casinos then you and your wife probably won't be missing much if you don't go visit them this trip. If you are talking about some of the big sites and touristy stops then I would still schedule what you want to see and then wait until she gets there and either she'll want to go or she won't... if she won't then its no biggie as you can just leave her with a couple of things to do and you and your wife can go off.

    Oh boo hoo... so there are three hotels you won't be able to dine at this trip. Maybe I am wrong but rumour has it that Las Vegas has a lot of other restaurants at a lot of other properties...

    Or actually, you already said you are going to send her alone to a show ("O" at Bellagio) if its that freakin' important that you have dinner at one of those three properties why not use that as a chance, while she is seeing the show, for you and your wife to go to one of them for dinner?

    Most people have food types they like and don't like... again, there are a lot of different restaurants in Las Vegas.

    And why are you even bringing up this point? You said yourself that you would eat a scabby cat if you are hungry...

    If you really don't care where you eat then all you need to do is ask her: "What kind of food would you like for dinner tonight?" and once she gives you an idea of what she want you can either take her to a place that serves what she would like or make a couple of suggestions of places that are within the budgets of the three of you.

    Almost nobody likes to talk anywhere too far.

    Unless she is lame or something this is again probably a reference to her own life back home. Most people are so used to taking their car or public transit back home that they don't like having to walk 5, 6, 7, 8 blocks or more anywhere nowadays... but while on vacation, especially in a place like Las Vegas, this usually doesn't become a problem (unless they are mostly incapable of walking for long distances) because everything looks so close.

    And if it is a possible issue then bear in mind that there are plenty of opportunities to stop and rest for a little bit. Like if you were at The Venetian and were going to Luxor you could just hoof it down the sidewalk the whole way there... but instead you could try being accommodating and with that there are plenty of opportunities to stop and rest along the way, IE:
    Walk from The Venetian to Harrah's.
    Stop at the bar at the entrance to Harrah's and get a couple of drinks or go find some slot machines or a table you can sit at and play for 10-15 minutes.
    Then take the monorail to MGM Grand.
    From there get in to the casino and again if she needs a short break stop and play some slot machines while she sits there and rests up.
    Then take the bridge to NYNY, slow your pace and maybe let her do some window shopping.
    Go in to Excalibur, go upstairs, maybe grab a cheap bite to eat at the food court or sit down and just have a drink before continuing.
    Take moving walkways to Luxor...



    Overall it sounds like your whole argument for why this trip will be bad is because this woman is not flexible or accommodating to your needs... you should stop and read your own post again, because thats exactly what you are saying about yourself - this woman has some requests and needs and you aren't being accommodating or compromising in the least.

    You have to remember: she is going with you guys because you are Vegas Veterans... maybe you should try acting like it? Some people don't want to be overwhelmed by the size and selection of a place like Las Vegas, so instead of just "here is a list of every show in Las Vegas" or "this is all the restaurants in Las Vegas" you could try narrowing down the immensity of the selection of the place by giving her choices that you and your wife have hand picked for her.

    Also this is your wife's best friend. Try to consider that maybe they will want to spend some time together, without you?

    You are married to wife, that doesn't mean you are married at the hip. Maybe you don't like eating alone or don't want to be apart from your wife all day, but in a situation like this that should be expected.

    And your wife being there actually should make things easier on you: schedule an afternoon at the spa for them, or make suggestions like "I'm going to go do _____, why don't you take her to see the Bellagio fountains and then the two of you can go to _____ and maybe do _____... and then we'll meet up in _____ at _____ later tonight, around __PM, for dinner"

    And off the top you were saying that you like to plan... but did anybody ask you to? Your wife is also in this and she was probably the one that agreed to let her friend come along. Have you tried asking her what things she will want to do with her friend?
     
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    Her problems, are not your problems, I'd just let her know that you will be gambling, drinking, and doing your normal things in vegas, and that she is welcome, and expected to fend for herself for much of the time. I can't imagine a non-gambler going to vegas for 11 days.

    Each day tell her what you're going to do, and where you're planning on going/eating. if she tries to change your plans, just say "have a fun day, I guess we'll see you later/tomorrow".
     
  15. technolight

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    Only going to quote this bit from Auggie

    "Almost nobody likes to walk anywhere too far"

    We do , we will think nothing of walking from the Stratosphere to MGM with minimal stops.

    We have booked our own shows,

    Rod Stewart ( do you want to go ) no don't like him

    Human nature ( do you like motown ) no

    Daytrip to Laughlin ( too long on a bus )

    Lunch at the Stratosphere ( don't do heights)

    Ballys sterling brunch ( food too fancy )

    And my wife has tried to get her to do other things but to no avail,so shopping and sight seeing it is , I will buy her a map . a bus ticket and print an itinery of things to do and see then get on with my vacation.

    And why does she want to go , Probably seen the pretty lights on CSI.
     
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    technolight Low-Roller

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    That sounds about perfect, thanks , now how do I get rid of the wife, lol.
     
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    Did you miss the part where she invited herself on someone else's vacation? IMO, that limits their obligation to be accomodating to her. You shouldn't crash a trip with people who may not have your interests and you can't expect them to change their style if you do.
     
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    If I were you I'd try to talk her into going for just 2 or 3 days, then flying back and leaving you two alone.
     
  19. TFK

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    Take her to see Chris Angel the first night, and see if you can get him to make her disappear.

    TFK
     
  20. technolight

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    After his show , she might say vegas really is crap, Im going home.
     
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