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How much does it really take to make CET Total Rewards Seven Stars?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by DaiLun, Jul 6, 2015.

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  1. DaiLun

    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    OK, so this is an extension of a discussion regarding the comparison of ADT and TR levels.

    I created a spreadsheet to illustrate this. Note that this takes into account basic slot play and implies that the player quit once making the daily minimum. This doesn't take into account any "special" bonuses

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    Sorry, I haven't figured out how to make the images larger in the post. If you click on it, it should be readable

    You can calculate the ADT from the action.

    It is possible to make 7* doing 500 TC days, but it would take 240 days and cost you a whole bunch more "action" than 1000 point or 2500 point days.

    If/when I make Seven Stars I will provide a recap on what it cost me and how I did it.

    The two factors that started me on pursuing 7* was the $10,000 jackpot that I hit in February and the 50% bonus that CET was offering in the 1st quarter.

    I've checked and double checked this, but please cite any inaccuracies that you find and I will make corrections.
     

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  2. Nevyn

    Nevyn VIP Whale

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    Your calculations appear correct.

    First, the disclaimer than in no way would I consider chasing seven stars in any method worth it.

    But, given your chart, it is easy to calculate coin in and theo needed based on the different approaches, and show you just how bad a deal it is to reach seven starts through a lot of slow rolling.

    The 500 tier credits per day person basically has a job going to the casino and playing slots (240 days). They put through a total of 600k of coin in and lose about 42k to get to seven stars (not to mention any additional travel costs). And they have an ADT of 175 or so, so the offers they get won't be amazing.

    Get to 7 stars with 12500 coin in per day, and you only need 20 gambling days, get there with 250k coin in and 17500 theo, and with an 875 ADT probably get far juicier offers.
     
  3. zoobrew

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    However, by going 240 days the low roller will be able to use almost all his comps. They will be able to use the free play that they get every few days, all the gifts/drawing, all the comps meals, comp drinks, comp diamond lounge, comp rooms, etc. Also by going 240 days they will be well known by the casino staff and that personal contact could get them over comped. Now these type of gamblers may do better at the regional CET casinos than at LV. Remember the value of the comps are not the amount that you are given, but the amount that you can redeem.
     
  4. DaiLun

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    But that assumes that they are already 7*. The first year would be very difficult.
     
  5. oghuman

    oghuman High-Roller

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    It appears that your calculations are based on Slots. You will need double the coin-in for Video Poker. Table games are dependent on each game.
     
  6. DaiLun

    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    Yes. Because I am primarily a slot player, that was my focus.
     
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  7. kankan53

    kankan53 Low-Roller

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    It took me 27 days this year to get 150K tier points. That included the 25000 Winter Tier Bonus Blast that I received from CET in April and the 10K bonus 7 star loyalty points that I received at the end of April.

    I averaged about 1k points a day with the 1K bonus and 7 days I got over 2500 and received the 5000 bonus tier. One day I got 5000 points and received the 10K bonus tier. Most of my good play was at Harrah's Lake Tahoe.
     
  8. adbynot

    adbynot High-Roller

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    I assume TC= Tier Credit, but not sure what action means and why total TC is then different
     
  9. justmare

    justmare High-Roller

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    2015 CET play:
    1-23 $51,970 10k bonus Planet Hollywood
    2-8 $35,850 5k bonus Harrah’s LV
    2-26 $33,925 5k bonus Caesars Palace
    2-27 $37,855 5k bonus Caesars Palace
    3-6 $46,130 5k bonus Caesars Palace
    3-21 $73,180 10k bonus Harrah’s Las Vegas
    5-29 $13,940 1k bonus Planet Hollywood
    5-29 $37,090 5k bonus Caesars Palace
    5-30 $43,060 5k bonus Caesars Palace
    5-31 $28,610 5k bonus Caesars Palace
    6-12 $17,830 1k bonus Planet Hollywood
    6-27 $31,270 5k bonus Harrah’s Las Vegas
    6-28 $32,050 5k bonus Harrah’s Las Vegas
    TOTAL $482,760 coin in

    Plus 25k bonus for Jan-Mar promo and 10k bonus for 7 Stars loyalty.

    -3,550.00 cash lost, but had $42,177.00 in W2G’s. Played primarily dollar DDB & TDB VP.

    I actually wasn't going for 7 Stars this year and didn't play to the bonuses, I just played what I wanted and stopped no matter how close I was to the next bonus, etc…

    Edited to make a correction on the bonuses I received. 5-29 play resulted in 10k bonus since the combined play for the day went over $50k coin in on VP.
     
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  10. DaiLun

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    But it probably took discipline and you only played at CET casinos, right?

    That will be the hardest thing for me to do is to make sure that I focus on play at CET casinos.

    I "butterfly" too much.
     
  11. adbynot

    adbynot High-Roller

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    So what are the stop limits you should be looking at, I'm not familiar with any of this.
     
  12. DaiLun

    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    "I assume TC= Tier Credit, but not sure what action means and why total TC is then different"

    Because action to get 1 TC varies according to the game.

    Action is the amount of money it takes to get 1 TC

    $5 = 1 TC for slots
    $10 = 1 TC for Video Poker
     
  13. justmare

    justmare High-Roller

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    No, I've also played at:

    2015 play:
    1-23 $19,812 MGM Grand
    1-24 $6,800 Westgate
    1-24 $2,130 Cosmopolitan
    2-8 $16,048 Four Queens
    2-26 $16,600 Westgate
    3-6 $36,781 MGM Grand
    4-11 $26,810 Westgate
    4-11 $50,814 Cosmopolitan
    4-25 $81,625 Cosmopolitan
    4-26 $38,790 Cosmopolitan
    5-9 $65,589 Cosmopolitan
    5-29 $14,788 Westgate
    6-12 $32,000 Cosmopolitan
    6-13 $19,612 Four Queens
    6-27 $6,043 Westgate
    6-27 $8,295 Mirage
    TOTAL $442,537 coin in

    I’m up $6,342 on this play. I also play some on my husband’s card at some places.
     
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