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How much do dealers actually make in tips?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by notfromconcentrate, Feb 23, 2016.

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  1. notfromconcentrate

    notfromconcentrate Low-Roller

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    Between the tips I've given as a player, and the tips I've seen other players give the dealer, it's made me more than curious as to what dealers actually end up coming away with. Does anyone have any insight as to what the dealers truly end up netting?
     
  2. smartone

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    Not sure of the validity, but I've heard in the neighborhood of $40-60K downtown and $100K+ on the strip.
     
  3. boxofbirds

    boxofbirds High-Roller

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    This site reports tokes received at various casinos as reported by the employees. http://www.vegas-aces.com/Root/tips/states/nevada-lasvegas.html

    Some are super old, but for instance a report from Golden Nugget from May 2015 shows dealer tokes of $88-$168 per day. I assume that is per dealer and not per table or per pit, but that's not totally clear.
     
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    h0und10 Low-Roller

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    i tip well when i am winning.. its a bummer they cant tip me when i am losing lol
     
  5. Scottndindy

    Scottndindy Low-Roller

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    The numbers on Vegas aces are per dealer per shift.
     
  6. SunnyStarbucks

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    Someone at our BJ table asked this question to our dealer since she was friendly and we have been there for awhile. The dealer told us about $1000 average a week. More if High Rollers are in town for Events. This was at Wynn
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    I hope she meant $1000/wk after taxes. I would have expected people at Wynn doing a bit better than that.

    Generally it's going to widely vary among casinos. The data from vegas aces linked earlier gives a good estimate.
     
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    I was very curious about this last trip, as I'm in the restaurant industry. Asked several dealers at different MGM properties, and got the same answer. All tips to dealers and CW's are pooled and divided. Seems a raw deal for those who go out of their way to make our experiences better, but logistically I understand it. Just take care of those who take care of you!
     
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    Surely they keep separate pools for the floor and HL rooms though?
     
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    The IRS forced the casinos to pool/share tips. They felt dealers were under reporting and threatened audits if they didn't start sharing tips. I believe there may still be a casino or two that doesn't make them share but I'm not sure. I assume the pooling takes place within each pit but I don't know that for sure. It does suck, I hate that the crabby asshole dealer at one table gets as much in tips as the great, fun dealer at another table.
     
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    I have seen dealers who were on break going around the pit and emptying the tip cans and dumping them into a larger can. There was always two dealers and supervisor performing the operation, I assume to prevent theft. I further assumed that they took the bucket to a secure area where the tips were counted and credited to each dealer/pit critter on duty.

    I see no reason why they would segregate the High Roller area tips from the rest.

    I'm not saying it isn't so, but I have never heard of CW's sharing tips with dealers. Yes, they do share tips with the bartenders.

    So, it makes no difference if you stiff Miss Crabby and over tip Miss Sunshine. It all goes to the same pool.
     
  12. SunnyStarbucks

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    Yes - she was talking about on average $1000/week after tax. She mentioned that the tips are pooled and then split but didn't go into detail if it's split between pits or shifts...etc..

    My thoughts are the same as yours, I thought it would be more considering it's at Wynn.
     
  13. stackinchips

    stackinchips High-Roller

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    You're still talking about a job that likely pays around 75-85k per year that requires no advance education. I'd say that's pretty damn good...
     
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    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

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    I think I read somewhere here possibly that tips are pool per pit so yes high limit is separate as is pai gow from BJ etc..

    Maybe use it as a way of promotion better dealers, better tips from HL.
     
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    For sure! Maybe time for a career change... LOL j/k
     
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    i never heard that the tips on the tables are shared with the bartenders
    sounds odd to me too
    you tip the waitress for your drinks thats different
    as i understood from a pitboss i once asked is that all the tips from the tablegames(as mentioned emptying the cans in larger can) will be put together and than equally divided among the dealers (and also pitbosses i assume?)
     
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    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

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    No they don't share tips with the pit that is for sure. I don't even think the pitbosses can accept tips as I tried to tip one for making me a players card when players booth was closed. He said he could not take it, so I tossed it on the felt at the BJ table (wasn't playing tables that night) and gave it to the crew.
     
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    They are probably considered management.

    The fact that they pool tips always makes me feel less sorry for the lonely dealers at 7am. Less work, same tips!
     
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    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

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    I want to amend what I said earlier... it is pooled per pit per shift IIRC. So lonely 7 am dealers would make less.
     
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