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how much better is "casino rate"

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Drgiggles, Sep 19, 2012.

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  1. Drgiggles

    Drgiggles Newbie

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    Is there a general rule of thumb for how "casino rate" or "player rates" compare to what you'd find on the hotel website? I guess in particular would be wondering for wynn/encore tower suites, but am curious more broadly.
     
  2. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    I used to wonder this question as well. A couple years ago I monitired website offers versus player's offers that I got in the mail. I estimated that the casino rate was typically 20% better than the standard offer. Don't know if that's still true today, but hopefully it helps
     
  3. Auggie

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    It depends on the property, but the general rule of thumb would be a savings of $5-20 per night for "Casino Rate".

    When you say "Player Rates" not sure if you are just coming up with another way to say "Casino Rates" or if you mean if somebody was a member of the casino's player's club and had a history of play with that casino...

    If you mean the latter then if you have a card but little to no history of play you would probably get the "Casino Rate", but if you have a card and a pretty solid history of play with the property then go anywhere from a minor discount equal to, or a little better than, the casino rate to free.

    But of note: you are asking about suites at The Wynn? That breaks down to two things: first, Wynn and Encore are not very friendly to low rollers as far as up front comps go (they were OK a few years ago when they were new, but not so much lately). And secondly, suites, no matter the property, are usually not discounted much at all to low rollers or for a casino rate.


    If you are really curious about Wynn/Encore specifically what I would do is: if you have their player club card then just call the number on the back and ask... if you don't have a card then just call their reservation line and ask "do you have a casino rate on your _____ suites?"
     
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  4. raisingoo

    raisingoo Low-Roller

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    my example from today

    Not sure how much more "broadly" you are willing to go, but...

    ...in downtown Las Vegas (not The Strip), there is a property called The California Hotel and Casino. It has 781 rooms (according to Vegas.com) and is also connected via pedestrian skyway to its sister property, Main Street Station (which is one of my favorites) that has even more rooms. It is part of the BConnected (Boyd) family of casinos.

    I am by no means a big player, but I was offered a rate of $25.00/night (weeknights only) through the player's club at this property and just booked TODAY three (3) nights in October. So, that's 3 nights for $75.00 (plus taxes).

    By point of comparison, I just went to their website http://thecal.com and decided to find out how much it would have cost me to do so WITHOUT this playher's club. The answer is $158.00.

    So, I got roughly a savings of 52%. Works for me.

    You might say, "downtown is not the same as The Strip" and "The Encore is a 5 star property; your example is only, say, 3 stars at best and is not comparable" and I agree with you on both points. But I don't need a fancy-schmancy room at all, and I prefer downtown to the Strip. It's better for me for a variety of reasons I won't go into (won't because there's no need to bring up the old downtown vs. Strip debate).

    Also, my choice of property has no nasty resort fee. I hate them with a passion. This is also subject to a big debate, but the ironic thing is that some property's stupid, moronic daily resort fees-- INCLUDING WynnCore's-- are as high as $25.00, which is my total rate for the room per night!

    People come in all different varieties and have different tastes, but I guess I'm saying that if you want a decent room in Vegas for cheap (and no resort fees), there are bargains to be had for minimal play.

    Hope this helps.
     
  5. mike_m235

    mike_m235 Tourist

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    At Monte Carlo, before I had my offers there, it was exactly 20% off of their advertised rate.
     
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    h_upmann Low-Roller

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    "Casino rates" (offered by a host) don't vary much in my experience. Typically 30-35% off rack rate so you can often do better with various offers.
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Based on many responses here, most people can find better offers than casino rate, most of the time.
     
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    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    casino rate is based off rack rate, which hardly anybody pays anyway. so the discount is minimal. so as everyone else is saying, most of the time you can find a sale or offer that's better.
     
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    DonD Super Moderator

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    The way room prices vary so much in the last few years due to the Internet, casino rates are usually not much better than the specials. However, sometimes you can get a casino room when the hotel is sold out and that can be a biggie.
     
  10. Drgiggles

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    to close out my own thread, did some further digging and it looks like its around 33% off rack rate for the wynn tower suites. on the one hand, rack rate is really high, but i don't know that i've found many deals on those rooms (or maybe i'm just looking in the wrong places; best i saw was the standard 10% off rack through amex fhr).

    thanks everyone for their responses!
     
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    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    that's where casino rate can be useful as you can get some suites through the casino that you can't get at all through the website or if you can get them they are at full rack rate.
     
  12. spenbro

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    Just wanted to chime in here quickly...I have been offered the "casino rate" on multiple occasions for guests joining me on a comp weekend at Wynn. It has consistantly been either $149 for a week night or $199 on a weekend. We have a trip booked for Superbowl weekend, where rooms are going for $350+ per night. Once again, the rate is $149/$199 for the people joining us. Hope this helps!
     
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    Found a couple times that web rates were less than casino rate.
     
  14. ChrisUK

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    I had a friend travelling with me stay on casino rate at Wynn Tower recently, it was about 50% discount.
     
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