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Help me decide! Wynn Bellagio Mirage

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels & Casinos' started by SnivesM, Apr 26, 2014.

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  1. SnivesM

    SnivesM Tourist

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    Hey all-

    Help me decide my trip in June!
    About me:
    My bankroll will be $14-16k over 3 nights. I am mainly a blackjack player; but my Achilles is that I always break up my blackjack sessions with slot play (either $1-$5 VP or video slots).

    My offers:
    Wynn - $500 FreeCredit; limo; $250/day food / bev, Exec Tower Suite. Know my host well & he is flexible...
    Mirage - $450 FP; limo; $400/day food /bev; 1br Penthouse. Have emailed/talked to host by phone only.
    Bellagio - $350FP; limo; $200/ day food/bev; Salone suite. Same host for years, host by email only.

    Issues:
    Love the Wynn's rooms, service, food, but feel extremely unlucky there. My bankroll has been absolutely blasted the past two trips.
    Mirage - like the room & restaurants; have done OK there, but prefer Bellagio casino by a lot
    Bellagio - like the casino the best, but always feel like a small fish in a very large pond. Host indifferent at best. Like the rooms & restaurants at W & M better (IMHO).

    I have tried Aria, and by all of the discussion and reviews should have loved the hell out of the place, but found it cold & uninviting.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. RiddickBull

    RiddickBull VIP Whale

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    I personally would go with Wynncore. I have had good luck there. If it's bad luck, I probably would not go there.

    Bellagio is the best from your selection. It also has the best BJ. I'm not sure if Wynncore has 6/5 BJ (I think they do).

    I would not consider Mirage out of the selection unless you want the penthouse and F&B.
     
  3. dankyone

    dankyone VIP Whale

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    Bellagio.
     
  4. iamsomedude

    iamsomedude Low-Roller

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    You're obviously very into the gambling scene, so if you like Bellagio's casino the best, you should go there. If you value the overall atmosphere more than the gambling scene, then you should go with the Wynn/Encore.
     
  5. VegasDave

    VegasDave Addicted

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    What about something not on the list? With that list I would try to pop over to the Cosmo if they gave me a good offer upfront.
     
  6. bardolator

    bardolator Lifelong Low Roller

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    For your specific gambling habits, Bellagio might be best because it offers 9/6 Jacks or Better, an easy game to play, for two bucks instead of five. You'll lose less during your BJ breaks. You'll also lose less if you know how to play VP flawlessly, play only at the better paying machines, and stay completely away from slots.

    Plus, even though all three casinos are very nice, I still love Bellagio's casino the most.

    We're not eligible for free suites, etc., but have found that as ordinary guests we have been treated better at Bellagio and Mirage than at Wynn. Obviously, YMMV.
     
  7. RPMCanes

    RPMCanes High-Roller

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    A phone call to them to see what they could offer would certainly be worth the effort. I hear you about being unlucky at Wynn, I haven't won a damn thing there since 2009 so I would go with Bellagio. I'd try and get them to upgrade you from a Salone suite however.
     
  8. VeddaLasVegas

    VeddaLasVegas Low-Roller

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    Wynn, based on your relationship with your host. Is it possible to split your stay? 2nts Wynn, 2nts Bellagio?
     
  9. SnivesM

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    Thanks for all of the replies! We only set foot in Cosmo for Rose Rabbit Lie / Nocturne - never played there. I've scanned this board & other places for info.

    Looks like the rooms & restaurants are awesome; appears they have good blackjack at $200+/hand; some bartop VP...

    I will def call over there, but wish I knew more about the casino floor somehow.

    My host Bev at B historically has offered me the straight marketing offer - nothing more (despite my best efforts to schmooze & playing the hell out of the place when I'm there). We have $3K Express Comps even to cover a room upgrade, but get a quick "any room upgrade will be based on availability upon check in only". I wonder about just booking with Casino Marketing this trip (vs. a new host - don't know how that would work, however).

    My host Alan at Wynn is terrific; always gives personal touches, better rooms etc., but again my track record there gambling makes me want to stay away.

    I'm casting Mirage aside.

    What do you all think about Venetian or Palazzo? Haven't stayed there in 3-4 years... Still looks like they offer some good blackjack in the HL areas (S17 etc. $100+/hand); am betting VP is horrid though...
     
  10. thecarve

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    The HL blackjack at V/P usually starts at $200-300. I assume that's the only place you'll find S17 (that isn't 6:5) at V/P these days. And VP is pretty terrible there. I've never done much searching on the Venetian side. But at Palazzo the best DDB I could find was 9/5, and that's at the $5 level. DDB is pretty much all I play. So maybe they offer decent versions of other games (but I doubt it).

    I'm a huge Wynncore fan, so that would be my recommendation. But I can certainly understand your hesitance based on past results. Of course, perhaps you're due. :evillaugh
     
  11. bardolator

    bardolator Lifelong Low Roller

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    Video poker was okay at Venetian for years, and also good at Palazzo for maybe a year after it opened. When the focus moved from gaming clients to business travelers, both became unplayable. V/P has always done a good job treating customers well, but the aforementioned shift in focus also sent comps pretty much into the toilet.

    For a high end place, Venetian's casino is one of my least favorite. Palazzo's is nicer, but the games suck just as much.
     
  12. SelfMade

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    Given the level you're balling at and the relationship with the host I'd say Wynn is the way to go.

    Don't forget your tux.
     
  13. stackinchips

    stackinchips High-Roller

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    I think there's a bit more info needed to definitively recommend anything but here are some comments:

    How many people are going with you? That makes a big difference. If you're solo, $400/day in F&B isn't going to be any better than $250 a day. If you're going with a group or SO, it would play a bigger role (for me at least).

    Out of the three rooms, I would go with the Wynn, based purely on the room itself. However, I would put the B into a tie with it considering the overall location. I love the Wynn, but feel a bit isolated down there. Keep in mind that I like to bounce around occasionally, especially if I hit a rut at the home casino and need to switch it up.

    Both the B and Mirage would provide better dining options overall, when keeping in mind that ALL the restaurants under MGM's roof are at your disposal. That provides you with more options, better variety. Wynncore has great restaurants, but they're all towards the fine dining atmosphere and pricepoint. Sometimes I just want a burger or a quick meal. Wynncore doesn't provide much in that area.

    Mirage has the better pool, but the other two aren't far behind, and unless you're a big pool person, that doesn't factor.

    Do you plan on any other activities like spa, shows, etc.? If so going to the Mirage would probably give you a better chance of getting those picked up as well. Like you said big fish/small pond vs. small fish/big pond.

    Pending answers on the questions above, I would go with the B first, Wynn second, then Mirage. The big questions would be the food and other activities, which could shift it a bit.
     
  14. franknic

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    Suggestion

    From what you mentioned and my experience at all 3 places - - go with bellagio however, try Anne Marie as a different host for you. My bankroll about 1/3 of yours ans Anne does me very we'll. for you, I think she will come through and you'll be happy. And with your. "Roll" you should not feel like a small fish. Good luck. Go get em
     
  15. SnivesM

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    I am not a room aristocrat, but those Salone suites at B are at the verrrry end of that long hallway with all of those wall lamps. I know I'm making this into the Manhattan Project here.

    Called the B host again; not exactly welcoming - "Salone is all we can give you, hon". "You picked some busier days for us." June 1-4 - Sun - Weds - Really? Wha?

    God she's lame. Would love a new host but weird to do? Anyone?

    It kills me cuz I LOVE the B casino - but service and relationships matter. Kills me!!

    Called Cosmo - can offer discounted room rates only.

    Wynn it is.
     
  16. SelfMade

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    That sounds like something I'd hear calling a massage parlor. This is a Bellagio host?
     
  17. Dean Martin

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    Great choice if you ask me but then I'm a big Wynncore fan. I love the whole property and the two very different casino's under one roof.
     
  18. Packer

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    Would stay at the Wynn. However, I totally understand the bad luck thing. But remember the cards don't know you have had bad luck there. try to play with no emotion. That being said, I would stay at the Aria! You can get a 1 bdrm Sky Suite, limo service and good food! You will love it! I have found the staff to be really nice. Dealers are always nice so are the floor supervisors. If not go back to the Wynn!
     
  19. Flowers

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    I find the Bellagio host's tone and word choice offensive. I hate when professionals, especially at a place like that, use the word "hon". :wink2: That would really piss me off. Your bankroll, if you lost it, would cover her salary for a more than a minute. Sounds like she needs an attitude adjustment.

    That being said, B clearly is your favorite casino. I would try a different host and go with Anne Marie as someone suggested. Even if her response is substantively the same it sounds like she would be far more professional and welcoming. That would likely make you feel better about staying there.
     
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