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Hand pays & ID required

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by Joe, May 9, 2013.

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  1. Joe

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    Over the years I've had a number of hand pays and never had to present more than driver license and verbally give my SS#.

    My brother is saying that the Fed has changed the rules and you now must present two forms of ID to collect a hand pay. I've been Goggling and can't find anything. He said it's Federal, but I wonder if it is just Indian Casinos, where he spends much of his time.

    Anybody know, or have a link?

    Of course the sad news is I haven't had a hand pay in over a year, so I can't verify this.:cry::cry:
     
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  2. RC

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    My last handpay was Dec '12 at the Cosmo and I gave them my DL and a verbal for my SS #.
     
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    cardfelon Low-Roller

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    If you have a players card with that Casino already then they noramlly won't ask for a DL. The first time you hit a hand pay at that casino they will need your SSN # for the tax forms. They keep the info on file though so normally you never have to give it to them again.
     
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    I don’t know how recently this new supposed regulation went into effect (or didn’t). But I had hand pays in early April that were handled the same way they have always been. (Wynn and Palazzo)
     
  5. ItsJustMe

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    While I did have a thread about this earlier (re: Potowatomi), it was generally concluded that this only applied to indian casinos. However...

    I just looked at the instructions for the IRS Form W2G 2013 and it has 2 box for required identification (Box 11 - First ID & Box 12 - Second ID).

    The PDF Instructions for Forms W-2G and 5754 state the Boxes 11 and 12:
    You can check this out by googling the terms casinos w2g issue w-2g Look at the link for the PDF for Form W-2g and the link for the Instructions for Form W-2G
     
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    Just for you Joe, I will hit a hand pay this weekend so I can give you up to date and accurate information. Kind of guy I am! :D
     
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    GOOD LUCK SIR!:thumbsup:
     
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    Interesting. I only carry one form of ID, my DL. Even if I could find it, there is no way in hell I'm going to carry my SS card. I guess I could start packing my passport to Vegas and run up to the room if I ever hit a hand pay again.:wink2:
     
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  9. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    How about a voter ID card?
     
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    Don't need that in WI-yet
     
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    Feds didn't change their rules, the casino(s) your brother plays at may have simply decided to start enforcing the rule. Most places are pretty lax on this. so an ID will usually suffice.
     
  12. Rush

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    I just hit a hand pay a month ago at Orleans, and they didn't even ask for my DL! (Only when it expired.)
     
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    This got brought up a few weeks ago. No definative proof, but it looks more like something the tribal casinos are doing more and more of.

    http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91695
     
  14. nostresshere

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    Probably had 20 handpays in past few months. MS, NV and NC.

    Only place that wanted a 2nd ID was Cherokee in NC. A credit card was fine. Just something with my name on it. Not a real ID. (I am a CET card member, but that did not count as an ID)

    None of the other places needed anything extra.
     
  15. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    Joe, I've never had a hand pay, period....:eek:

    Just in case you're brother's right, I'll pack two forms of I.D. I wonder if a recent paystub with your SS# will suffice?
     
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    Does anybody know if a lucky gambler from outside the U.S. hits a handpay, what forms of I.D. they would have to show?
     
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    Followup

    Just following up on this. My brother plays at two Indian casinos here in Wisconsin and he said the signage went up May 1st that they were requiring two forms of ID. Ho Chunk & Potowatomi for you WI locals.

    I did a little Goggling on this and as Ike posted, the FED rules have not changed. So it appears to be just lax enforcement in Vegas.

    From the IRS: driver's license, social security card, or voter registration are acceptable forms of ID. , but two forms are required.

    As I said before here in WI we have no requirement for a voter registration card and I will not carry my SS card, so I guess I will start packing my passport just in case.

    Insert whine here about lack of hand pays:evillaugh
     
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    I always have my "FOID" card in my wallet ... (Firearm Owner's ID).

    Funny related story ... Last year, at the LV Alamo rental counter, I mistakenly handed my FOID card to the clerk, instead of my Driver's License ... and he never even batted an eyelash. :thumbsup:
     
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    Joe, I know you're cheap (in a good way) :beer: But you can get the passport ID card for something like 30 bucks, and it's the same size as a DL.

    I don't exactly obsess over identity theft. But I'd never carry anything around with my SSN on it.

    Voter ID? I can't think of anything easier to acquire in CA than the "right" to vote. (That is factual, not political.)
     
  20. thecarve

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    Don’t need that in VA – yet.

    Sorry Joe, couldn’t resist! :beer:
     
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