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Generic vs Marketing offers from specific MLIFE Properties - choosing a spot.

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Hoowaa, Jun 18, 2014.

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  1. Hoowaa

    Hoowaa Tourist

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    Slot Player with a smattering of of table games.

    I have a Generic MLIFE offer from the MLife Website that is pretty consistent across all properties.
    • $350 in FREEPLAY®
    • Complimentary Deluxe Room or Suite (depending on property) for 3 nights
    • Comp yourself with Express Comps™
    • 2 Tickets to any MGM Resorts show

    I get marketing offers from Mirage (email/snail mail) that are more generous - I have stayed here once.
    • $350 in FREEPLAY®
    • Three Complimentary Nights in a One Bedroom Suite
    • $500 in M life Resort Credit
    • Limo Transportation from and to the airport

    I get marketing offers (email/snail mail) from Mandalay Bay that are most generous. I have stayed here on numerous occasions over the past 4 years.
    • Three Complimentary Nights at Four Seasons, Mandalay Bay or THEhotel
    • $1,000 Resort Credit
    • $350 in FREEPLAY
    • Complimentary Spa Access for TWO
    • 25% Discount on Spa Services

    I get nothing from the other properties, but have gambled when on a crawl at NYNY, Aria, Bellagio and MGM in the past without staying there. I am interested in staying at either Aria or Bellagio.

    So.....I contacted a host at Aria and he was able to offer :
    • 4 nights in a Deluxe Room
    • $350 in Freeplay
    • $200 in Food/Beverage Credit
    Which is not bad, but clearly less than MB and Mirage.

    I also contacted a host at Bellagio and he deferred only to the generic marketing offer that has no Resort/FB credit.

    So...the thrust of all this info us the following...


    1. Is the lack of up-front FB/Resort credit really something to worry about if I want to stay in either property if I gamble at the normal amount and pace ? In other words, is it likely that the charges be picked up when I check out (assumption on my part given the amount other casinos offer up front) or is the risk high that I am left holding the bag and "stress" of that worry not worth it ?
    2. Will a stay at either one of these places result in marketing offers directly from them that are more generous than the generic MLIFE offers?
    3. Will my offers from either MB or Mirage stop or diminish ?

    Perhaps more generally, given equal play, which of Bellagio or Aria is more generous with offers ?

    Hope someone can chime in that has shifted properties within the MLife family and help us decide what to do.
     
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  2. Waltz69

    Waltz69 Tourist

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    Not sure why your not getting responses so I will chime in. If you stay without the upfront resort credit and go on a bad run you could end up paying for your amenties at the end of your stay. If you take the upfront resort comp your protected from that. Keep in mind your room may be below what your used to, I like to fly in early and play for about 6 hours before going to VIP services with a small gift for my host before checkin. Gives a new host the chance to bump me to a better suite than I would have gotten coming without a history.
     
  3. firstkill

    firstkill High-Roller

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    I figure, you should just go to the property you like to play at.

    vacation/free time is short, at your play level , im guessing a few hundred bux in the scheme of life isn't that big of a deal.

    id chose aria, then MB, then mirage. for me its a choice of casino. Eating 1,000 at MB would be tough for me, even with a steak dinner for 2 for 400, that would leave 600 for the rest of the places there. For a 4 day trip that seems more than enough. Im not a clubber/pool person so not much else to spend the 1k.

    fk
     
  4. chonglosaxon

    chonglosaxon MIA

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    My mirage comps are typicall better than the mlife offers. However they both never have any freeplay on them which amazes me. I play 75/25 tables and slots.

    I have no idea why my offers are so weak.
     
  5. RiddickBull

    RiddickBull VIP Whale

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    Not always, but usually resort credit at MLife works at all Mlife properties. I would double check with the host, but it has always worked for me in the past.
     
  6. broncofn

    broncofn VIP Whale

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    Yup, just switched from wynn to mandalay bay and I'm getting a 2 br media suite, 1k f&b which I can use at any mgm property including massages (verified thru host) ,2 $500 tix to the the canelo fight and limo. I'm still double booked at Cosmo for the bacc tourney.

    Only thing making me nervous is that no one plays in the high limit room at mb. I don't like playing bacc and Bj by myself.
     
  7. RiddickBull

    RiddickBull VIP Whale

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    Awesome, you going to the fight. It's going to be good.

    I'll be there the week after at the Cosmo for the slot tourney.
     
  8. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    I stayed at MB several trips in a row after I was assigned a host. He would comp me 5 nights at THEhotel and attach any offers I had for freeplay, resort credit, and F&B. I stopped staying there when he failed to reply to an email I sent to make arrangements for a trip; since then, I've stayed at Aria, because they were sending me offers after I played there once. After I stopped playing at MB, I stopped getting offers from them.

    The generic MLife corporate offer you got indicates play slightly higher than my level, but the difference in the MB property offer and what the Aria host offered you is telling you all you need to know about how the two properties view your play - the host at Aria sees the same numbers as the marketing system at MB.

    Personally, I wouldn't be too confident about back end comps at Aria, let alone Bellagio. It's always better to get things upfront if you're a smaller player. MGM wants you to use your Express Comps back end.

    If you like MB, what I would do (based on my own preferences) is:
    • Get in touch with a host there if you don't have one.
    • Since MB is saying they will put you in Four Seasons, try to leverage that for a higher level room at MB (assuming you don;t want to stay at Four Seasons).
    • If you don't think you will use much of the $1,000 resort credit, see if you can waive half or all of it in return for a really good room (like a Sky View Suite). I was able to barter away F&B credits through a host at Aria in exchange for a suite vs a regular room.


    If you really want to try Aria and you don't need the extra resort credit or a larger room, then that would be fine, just resist the temptation to overplay.

    Another strategy would be to stay at MB, and spend a full day's play at Aria, maybe overweight your bankroll a little for that day (drawing the excess from other days). That should keep your corporate offers at the same level, it might not hurt your direct MB offers, and you might start getting some direct ones from Aria.
     
  9. Hoowaa

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    Thanks for the constructive feedback.

    We ended up selecting 4 Seasons @ Mandalay Bay. We have stayed at TheHotel and various large suites at Mandalay Bay, never have checked out 4 Seasons; the reviews of service and amenities intrigued my wife and I. Since this is a trip with my wife, so we will chew through the resort credit no problem with numerous expensive Drinks at the private pool, meals at Veranda (breakfasts) and Charlie Palmer and an afternoon at the spa for my wife and charging to our room as we crawl the strip's other MLife properties.

    By myself I would have selected Aria.

    We will play an afternoon or evening at Aria there and see if it generates offers in the future. I'd like a change of venue one we try 4Seasons even if the offers are slightly less.
     
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