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Gaming day on Checkout?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Loston815, Dec 1, 2014.

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  1. Loston815

    Loston815 Tourist

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    For CET, does the checkin and checkout day count as a gaming day? If I recall from reading on this board that the day starts and ends at 4am. I know when you swipe or when you use your card that counts as a gaming day but what about when you checkout? For example check-in on Thursday and check out on Sunday, if I don't play from 4am to checkout time (12pm) is it still considered a gaming day for the Sunday or would this not count against my adt.

    Thanks.
     
  2. BayouBengal

    BayouBengal VIP Whale

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    Check out the thread with the CET host, he would be able to give you the official answer.
     
  3. saeldway

    saeldway Low-Roller

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    I asked a very similar worded question on the PVH thread and the answer seemed to be if you stick it in and play on checkout day (or use your card elsewhere) it counts as a gaming day. I was asking the question in context of shorter trips vs longer trips. As in, weekend travelers (Californians) seem to get dinged harder than the weekly travelers as someone who comes in Friday night and plays Sunday morning before they leave are getting hit with 3 gaming days when in reality they are there for less than 48 hours whereas playing on that last day on a weekly stay is just 16% of the days.
     
  4. newmans

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    The gaming day for CET in Vegas is 6am - 6am. If you play with your card after 6am, accept a comp, stick your card in a slot machine, it will generate another gaming day and affect your ADT.
    If you stay Thursday - Sunday as in your example, it would be 3 gaming days providing you did nothing with your card after 5;59am on Sunday.
     
  5. leo21

    leo21 VIP Whale

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    It does count as a gaming day. However, you are being rated for both gaming day AND for the entire trip. They have a fancy term for that bt I forget what it is. I would't stress over playing on checkout day tanking your comps if you are in Vegas or if you have a longer history with them like it would if you short played at a local Harrah's.
     
  6. newmans

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    It wouldn't affect your comps. Your comps are calculated on your trip theo. What it will impact would be future offers, which are based on ADT.
    Example. You stay for 3 nights and have a total trip theo of $3000. You would have an ADT of $1000. If you charged a starbucks coffee to your room at 10am on the morning you check out or check your points by sticking your card in a slot machine, you have created another day.....but with putting in zero play on the fourth day. Your trip theo is still $3000, but your ADT is now $750.
     
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    Your future offers are bounceback comps. And there is more to comps/offers than just ADT.
     
  8. newmans

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    There are general offers made by marketing. I know with CET, ADT will drive most offers and there is a lag (I think 6 months).
    Example
    -which New Year's Eve offers you receive and the amount of free play attached
    -there is a TV giveaway in January... ADT determines the size of the TV offered

    Unlike mlife, there are few offers I see that are for some combination of free play, hotel and F and B.
    I would normally see hotel comps upfront with my room charges being learned on the back end.
    On a recent post by PHVHOST, he wrote about a Dr Oz event. The extent of giveaways you received and which events you were invited to were listed in terms of ADT.
     
  9. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Very good point. This really sums up the CET side of things, which I learned years ago when we could see our ADT. I was doing breakfast at the snack bar and stick $40 in the machine, AND my card. Bad move.

    As to the checkout day counting into ADT - that is a fuzzy question.
     
  10. waverunner

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    I check in at 4 pm on Sunday, i check out on Friday at 11 am. I never use my TR card after 6 am on checkout day. However, i did use my TR (technically) card, when i checked out to pay off the resort fees using points from my card.
    I assume, well, at least hope, that my future stay at CET will also be comped (Sun-Fri) certain weeks as it always has been (well, the least the last few years).
    I'm wondering if using Social Rewards is affecting my ADT? My ADT for 5 nights in the Casino (a couple of weeks ago), was the highest it's ever been, Gold @ 4300 tier points. But would playing SR at Home affect my future comps? Would Caesar be sneaky enough to basically cancel out the advantage i get from comped rooms and comped rewards credits?
    Gawd, i hope not.
     
  11. Chuck2009x

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    This was discussed pretty thoroughly in a roundabout way in one of Hunter's threads. My conclusion was that ANY gaming or TR activity that consists of a comp that occurs after 6:00am (or whatever the cutoff time is for the casino you're staying at) on check out day triggers a day for ADT.

    Gaming activity obviously, but the way Hunter put it was something like, if you are being extended a comp of any kind on a day, it counts.

    So this would include things like the TR discount at a restaurant, and getting free show tix.

    I usually stay at Caesars at the tail end of a stay and so checkout early in the morning, often before 6:00am, so it's not usually an issue for me, but I play it safe and I don't do any TR activity on check out day, or when I'm staying at non-CET property. I apply RC's and hit the host office the night before checkout.
     
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