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Discussion in 'Comps' started by loonytoony, Jan 20, 2016.

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  1. loonytoony

    loonytoony VIP Whale

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    Whats the difference if a player plays 400 hands of black jack at $25 per hand, 100 hands @ $100/hand, or 10 hands @1,000/hand all in one casino day?

    From a ADT standpoint and/or comp standpoint?

    Just curious and if the volume isn't enough add a zero to the volume of each scenario.
     
  2. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    There's been several discussions about this.

    In the short run you can sometimes get the attention of a host trying to pick you up if you play large for a short time. He'll try to bring you in to stay with him in the hopes that you'll bet just as high for a lot longer.

    In the long run theo and actual losses and money at risk is everything. At the highest levels theo still counts but actual losses is king.
     
  3. BayouBengal

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    4 hours seems to be the magic amount of time they like. But like shifter said if you're unknown they might take a chance on you in hopes that the 1 hour at $100 turns into 4 hours. Your ADT would be the same but if you're looking for upfront comps I have to think the host will have to consider time in addition to bet level.
     
  4. Bondy3

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    if you want to increase your average bet and milk playtime, play at a full table, you get a lot less hands per hour and it will keep your average bet up longer. but the casinos are getting really good at rating players accordingly, I think the days of messing with your ratings to get comps are going away
     
  5. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    no way.

    as long as there's a human factor in the equation, there's room to game it.

    only when they go to 100% automated ratings with chips in the chips and sensors on the table and track every single bet you make will it be dead.
     
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    Lately I've been getting a little crap from my host at aria. I hit my theo and quit. He wants a little more play so he tells me to reduce my avg and play longer. My play was 2 hours a day (6 hours), 3000 avg, 12k ish theo.. He would have liked 1500-2000 avg for 10-12 hours. I said no, he said ok. Lol
     
  7. shifter

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    they only complain about the hours when you aren't losing enough.

    but the truth is it's not the host that cares. it's his bosses.

    they are getting so tight, they are coming up with any excuse not to comp on theo.

    hell, one trip I had 250k theo and maybe 60k in comps and they bitched at my host about all the wine I drank/took because I didn't lose.

    the whole point of getting you to play more time is to get you to lose more.

    the host can justify to his boss if you played 4 hours a day and still didn't lose enough.

    he can say, hey, this guy is putting in the play, he's just getting lucky for now. we'll get him eventually.

    but if you're not putting in the time and not losing enough, they're going to pressure him to cut your comps down.
     
  8. Bondy3

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    is this only with table games or is this with things like VP and slots as well?

    hypothetical situation, I do 500k coin in to a VP machine in 30 minutes, would they want to cut my comps because I didnt play long enough? even though I put the 500k coin in?

    I think its crap they dont comp on theo, they should. 4 hours is a lot of play time
     
  9. shifter

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    dude, you keep asking the same question.

    for slots and VP, coin-in is all that matters. they don't care how you get there.

    they love, love, love, love any kind of machine player!

    you have nothing to worry about!
     
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