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Discussion in 'Comps' started by JCLND, Feb 2, 2016.

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  1. JCLND

    JCLND Tourist

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    Hi all....new to Site and newbie craps player with quick question

    Spent one day at GN played for 6 hours average bet when quit was told 150. What IF ANYTHING would this kind of play get me right away or future offers from again?

    Also spent 2 nights at PH and played 6 hr session again at 150. Average bet one day and a 7 hour session the next day with average bet again 150. At a few times I had upwards of 1200 1400 on the layout. Again what IF ANYTHING could this get me at the time of my stay and what type of future offers could I expect?

    Usually make 3 trips a year but never played at this level so I'm completely green to all this......feel free to tell me if. I'm dreaming :beer: Thank you for the help!!
     
  2. SnakeDoctor

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    Well, I'm no pro on the subject, but I don't play at nearly that level (assuming no odds are counted, I play more like anywhere from 75-150 per roll) and get 2-3 free night offers from the TotalRewards program at all but Caesar's. Are you saying 6 hrs a day? If you are risking over 1000 per roll (is this including odds?), I'd think you'll get some pretty nice offers soon. As far as what? Heck if I know...nicer rooms, a good amount of free play, and some food and beverage credit I would think? If our flat bets are similar, then you should expect some room offers, as that's what I get.
     
  3. FuzzyDiceCraps

    FuzzyDiceCraps High-Roller

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    Sounds like you play similar to me in that I press my bets, aggressively at a hot table. Meaning when a shooter goes on a tear I end up with a stupid amount of money on the table (in relation to my typical bet, its just average (or even small) for big players). Sadly, I don't think it gets a ton of consideration. The suits normally rate you when you start playing and then occasionally review it again. Because the instances of having a lot of money on the table are uncommon compared to baseline bets, the chances of it being noticed is small, and the chances of it making a real difference in your rating is also. That has been my experience, but obviously that is subject to a lot of differentiation based on the suit doing the rating, and how the casino calculates this stuff. I am by no means an expert, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. Casinos already don't want to reward us table players, so they won't go out of their way, especially when the higher bets are being made with "house money".
    Still, $150/hand is significant enough to get you comps, especially at CET properties or downtown. Your mileage decreases with that amount at other joints.
     
  4. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    $150/hand for 4+ hours a day should get your room comped back end at either place for as long as you can keep doing it.

    Assuming you set up a Total Rewards account and used your card, log into your account online a couple of weeks after you got back and check the availability calendars. You probably can get 5 nights comped at any CET property. Offers with throw ins like resort credit and/or freeplay might take a little longer to show up.

    Golden Nugget, dunno, but offers should be as good or better than CET.
     
  5. Nittany1

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    Should get you a base level comp room at most hotels in Las Vegas including MLife,Cet and others.
    Not sure about WynnCore or VP.
     
  6. shacktown

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    Depending on what bets you were placing, $150/avg bet for 6 hours per day should get you rated at about $1000 ADT (average daily theoretical). Which will get you some very solid offers. Craps is a little more complicated to rate than say blackjack, where the odds are very straight forward. In blackjack, the pit boss will enter your average bet and then generally rate your betting skill at one of three levels, which affects the "hold" the system uses to calculate your theoretical value (which is what they use to determine what size offer to send you.
    For craps, the pit boss rating you has a lot harder job because there are so many different bets to track and some that are only single roll, etc. So it's tougher to make a generalization about what offers you would receive or how they ended up rating you. I made a calculator that estimates theo (you can check out the calc here), but craps is definitely the one with the most variability and toughest to estimate. But no matter what, $150 a roll will give you solid offers. Please report back when they come in - I'm curious.
    One recommendation I have - tip well and make friends with the craps dealers. Because it's so hard to rate that game, how much the pit boss and dealers like you will have a stronger influence on your rating than with other games.
     
  7. JCLND

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    Thank you all for the input.....I will definitely report back if/when I get any offers. Already noticed on the TR website I'm able to get my rooms at most of the CET properties for the cost of the resort fees.
     
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