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Foreign Dealers in Vegas/Reno

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by marksind, Jul 23, 2015.

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  1. marksind

    marksind Low-Roller

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    We stay in downtown Vegas, so this may not be true of the strip. We also go to Reno. Over the past few years it seems that a very high percentage of the table dealers are recent foreign arrivals, many struggling with their English. In Reno and some of the downtown casinos Chinese are particularly common (their name tags have their name and home country). For any of you who work in or have insider info on the industry, I'm curious. Why is this occurring? And is this some sort of H-1B visa scam?

    We constantly hear about "jobs Americans won't do," but I can't believe that casino dealer jobs fall into that category. Yet it is getting very rare for me to sit down at a table where I have a dealer with a name tag showing a U.S. hometown. Maybe it's because of the places I play, and the fact that I'm not in the high limit room?
     
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    The national average base pay for a casino dealer is $14,700 a year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but that figure does not include company benefits and tips. More and more casino are working dealers part-time so they don't have to pay benefits and tips are very variable. So dealers get fast food worker pay, before the $15/hr. movement, but with a lot more restrictions and responsibilities, so yes new dealer jobs are not in high demand for qualified Americans.

    http://www.hcareers.com/us/resourcecenter/tabid/306/articleid/629/default.aspx
     
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    Add to that being on your feet for 2/3rds of your shift and breathing second hand smoke when you are at a table. Not that attractive a job.
     
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    h0und10 Low-Roller

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    And downtown is a good place to "get your foot in the door" then most dealers who stay with it, try to work their way up to the strip.
     
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    There's definitely no H1-B visas being issued for dealers. I've been gambling for 15 years and for as long as I can remember, the low income casinos have always had many foreign dealers. It's an easy job to get, it requires no education and about 4 weeks of skill to obtain. With tips, some of those dealing jobs in Downtown Las Vegas pay 25-30K a year. Not enough for Americans to start rushing over to apply for.
     
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    marksind Low-Roller

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    Wow! I had no idea the pay was so bad! Following the link provided by zoobrew, I clicked to this:

    http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/casino-dealer-salary-SRCH_KO0,13.htm

    I see that two people report Boyd Gaming salaries of $7.49/hr. (must be minimum wage). OK, that explains everything! For that kind of pay I'd rather be saying "Do you want fries with that?"
     
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    Hmmm, I was in Reno 30 years ago and at the time I saw many foreign dealers there. One was new at her job, had a hard time getting it right and after a few hands of mess ups they took her away and I never saw her again.

    I dunno, many of the foreign dealers I see downtown vegas are more mechanical, don't speak much or make small talk and not very friendly but are very efficient with dealing. I thought that the casinos liked them because they produced more hands per hour. Yes they are hard to speak to but I guess some people don't really like to make small talk when they play the game.
     
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    My sister was a dealer up here in Vancouver... she got in to it because of the enticement of the "with tips you can make a lot of money an hour!"

    She stuck with it for a few months but found that it wasn't as lucrative as she thought because the tips really weren't there or weren't consistent, didn't like all the standing, drunken customers, having to stand there when nothing is going on and look busy, having to dry clean uniform daily... to her it didn't work out to be worth it for working just a little above minimum wage.

    I remember before the 2008 recession reading how dealers on The Strip were making $80-90K a year, and while I've never been to Reno I could see it being hard to make a living dealing in Downtown Las Vegas: more locals and they generally don't tip, the gamblers themselves are cheaper and the table limits are generally lower so when you do get a tip its generally going to be for the same small stakes you would be dealing.
     
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