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Flyback Voucher?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by UKFanatic, Oct 9, 2012.

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  1. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    Just received an offer from Mandalay Bay that includes comped nights, a sizeable resort credit, and a "flyback voucher". Never heard of a flyback voucher, but I'm assuming it has something to do with reimbursing my flight home, or maybe paying for a return trip to Vegas. I have no idea because I have never been offered that. Can someone tell me what flyback voucher means and how I can redeem it?
     
  2. Auggie

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    If you search on it you will find some more detailed information, but basically its a credit for airfare.

    There are loads of catches and conditions with it, like:

    - it is for a set amount, something like $250-300
    - you have to book through a specific travel agency
    - you have to book your whole trip through the travel agency
    - you can't extend your trip beyond what you book. IE: you can't book 3 nights at Mandalay Bay and then use a comp somewhere else for 3 more nights and then set the return flight home after the comped nights.
    - you have to book two people's airfare at the same time
    - you have to fly out of a major airport that has a minimum number of carriers
    - a huge item: you can't use any comps for your hotel stay. Like if you can normally get 3 nights free at Mandalay Bay you can't use that because you have to pay for your room (and prepay for it all)

    So those are some of the restrictions, there are more than that.

    Basically its one of those things that will either be really handy for you, or it won't... most of the people that frequent this board and other Vegas message boards its not going to be useful at all.
     
  3. BlueSkadoo

    BlueSkadoo VMB Sweetheart

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    Sweet! When are we going, UK? :wink2:
     
  4. JillyFromPhilly

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    I think what you're thinking it might be is normally referred to as "airfare" or "airfare reimbursement" - unless you're a substantially big player - usually $50K plus Int'l, $100K+ domestic [My upcoming trip to Palazzo is the first time I'm getting "airfare" upfront from anywhere, having just bumped my LOC up to $100K] - this is usually determined EOT only, and only if your theo exceeds expectations or your used comps [and even then there's often a ceiling on what they'll give you based on the size of your LOC/FM] - and then they just give you cash [or credit your account] whatever the amount they decide to give you is - which has nothing to do with the actual cost of your airfare.

    I've never heard this type of "airfare" referred to as a "voucher" before, so I'd imagine this is something different from what I was just describing above - but, if this was included in your offer, I disagree that using this "voucher" necessarily means you can't use it [whatever it is] and also have your room comped upfront, since this seems to be included on your offer that also includes comp nights - it seems a bit bizarre they'd include it on a comp offer if one of the conditions of using it is you can't then take the comp offer it was attached to.

    I'd also throw in that, if what I remember having previously read about the level your play is getting up to lately is correct, you're probably getting to the level where you can just start ignoring your offers & start negotiating directly with your host whenever you want to come out anyway.
     
  5. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    I see now! I found a little link hidden in the middle of the email. The fine print was easier to find than that link, lol. There's only 17 or 18 conditions on using it. I'll spend the next hour reading it and then decide what to do :faint:
     
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    The discussions on these vouchers come up every once in awhile and in the many years of talking about them I have yet to hear of one person being able to take advantage of them.

    Keep us updated on if you are able to use them. They probably won't know what to do if someone actually tried to use them, lol.

    Have fun!

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    kel3420 VIP Whale

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    Jilly, many years ago, when I was at the Mirage, getting comp show tickets, a young guy walked up with his boarding passes and receipts. He just kind of tossed the paperwork at them, didn't say much. He was reimbursed and walked away with his money in less than five minutes. I was stunned. I was just getting introduced to comps and had never heard of airfare reimbursement. I asked the host about it and he explained the level of gambling needed, etc. He also went on to talk about points on people's accounts and how so many people simply didn't ever use them, and some people had hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting there untouched. He also added, that these points come up in divorce situations. I was mesmorized, lol. I remember I couldn't wait to tell my husband about it.

    Now, years later, I am a little more wise to the workings of comps and stuff. I will never in a million years get an airfare reimbursement, but at least I get it now, lol.

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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    That deal falls into at least 2 different situations. Some players are at a level that they get reimbursed for airfare on a regular basis. High end.

    Also, some casinos do run a promo from time to time that will offer to pay your airfare to get you into the casino. We used to get it from Harrahs New Orleans (coming from Mempis) from time to time.

    Totally different than the FlyBack promo, which pretty much sucks. Here is a link to a discussion last year, with a link to the Mirage rules.
     
  9. UKFanatic

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    Yeah, already decided not to use it. Too many restrictions. Didn't think it was airfare reimbursement because I don't play at that level, but now I know what it is. Not worth the effort.

    Thanks for the helpful info!
     
  10. Mitkraft

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    Since some one mentioned they'd never heard of anyone being able to use one of these I'll chime in with my experience. The details are not crystal clear but the short it was that we did get to use it and it did turn out to be worthwhile.

    The situation: About 5-6 years ago we checked in at the MGM (probably our 4-6th trip to Vegas which always included a stint at MGM) and the front desk check-in guy said we were being awarded a (can't remember the term he used flyback, return trip, airfare) voucher. Still being relatively new to Vegas and things like this I wasn't sure what to think and thought "ok, well maybe kinda cool".

    We were suscpicious at first so we did some reading. It did say it had to be booked through the travel agent, there was a price range limit (I think the $250-$300 stated ealrier was about right) and there was some cost to us for processing or something or other (wasn't much). Oh and like many other time-share, sales pitch type "gifts" there were also strict time limits on everything. I think there was 1 or 2 certified mail had-to-be-in-by-certain-date traps built in. However we were very careful to take all the right steps and send the proper forms etc. And in the end we did get re-imbursed. I also believe that we were able to choose the flights and such. I can't remember if we booked directly through the agent or if we booked through SW and gave her the confirmation number but I do remember it not being a problem. We didn't have to pay more than usual for the flight or anything.

    I can not speak to whether we stayed at MGM the entire time for that trip or not though. I can't remember if that was before we started hotel hopping or not.
     
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    Mit - SO glad someone was able to use these!
     
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    I've used 2 Mandalay Bay flyback vouchers in the last year. You must stay a minimum of 3 nights at Mandalay and book your stay and get a confirmation number prior to booking with the travel agency. I used my free offers from Mandalay and did not pay for my room, food, beverage or entertainment as I was able to book under a Mandalay offer for a comp suite, f&b, etc. The catch is that the voucher value drops. It goes from $350 to $200 and then $100. To get the 350 you had to go back and stay within 60 days of registering the voucher. Each time I've redeemed mine, Ive gotten 200 off my flight on Southwest. I was not required to book 2 flights. The 200 was due to booking within 120 days. After 180 days, the 100 expires. So, it's a way to get folks to go back to Mandalay.
     
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    ^^^^
    All that sounds very familiar so I think ours was a similar deal. And yes, I forgot to mention, a purchase of an additional flight was not required, nor was a prevented from using an offer to stay at MGM. I was able to book my hotel arrangements directly through casino marketing and only had to provide the confirmation number and later the final bill to the reimbursement people.
     
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