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Flamingo Renovations

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels & Casinos' started by Publius, May 6, 2016.

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  1. Publius

    Publius Low-Roller

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    Do I think it's a good thing? Yes.

    Do I worry that all the renos will price a lot of people out of the market room pricing wise & decreased comp wise? Yes.

    Actually took a heavy stroll thru Flamingo - used different elevator banks, visited a few floors during 'cleaning' hours. Peeked in a few open doors where maid were cleaning. The Go's I looked at actually still looked really good. The hallways had new carpet. The elevators that I used had absolutely no issues & insides were clean, not damaged, etc.

    I don't want it to turn into a hotel with rich kids spending daddy's money, which I have seen elsewhere in Vegas.
     
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    Saw this a few days ago, I think it's awesome. Flamingo has such great potential to be a solid mid-level property. I'll be excited to see how this progresses.
     
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    Personally, I hope it doesn't happen. There is something about the... blood on the carpet, beer bottles everywhere, and elevator adventures that always give me that nostalgic, "Old Vegas" feel to it.
     
  5. NickPapageorgio

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    Rest assured that aliens will occupy the Flamingo before your fears ever materialize.

    Nick:beer:
     
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    I hope once the renovations are done that Flamingo will still be comped for Gold members.
     
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    I think a great idea. We stay at Flamingo every year, really starting to show it's age. I do agree though that I really hope it doesn't get priced out of our mid range budget! Wonder how messy the reno will be?
     
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    I looked at rooms for nov/dec and i wasnt able to get any Go room so maybe they are re doing those or it was just another glitch on the TR website
     
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    People were afraid that the renos at the Linq would price people out of the market and they are nowhere near what we were told to expect. It's looking like maybe $10 a night more? To me, they either need to renovate or end up with a dying hotel. The complaints about the Flamingo have been long term. A renovation isn't just going to erase the bad goodwill, it's just going to stabilize what is becoming a bad situation.
     
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    I think Harrahs needs the reno more so that the Flamingo but hey as long as my CET properties are getting love, I'm happy
     
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    Harrah's is supposed to be getting done now but it doesn't seem as if it's as comprehensive.
     
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    Harrahs has been getting 'touches" of renovation over the past 5 years. The casino, food court, sports book, and other restaurants. Some of the higher end suites got upgraded a few years ago. Mardi Gras tower was done around 6 to 7 years ago, and now the south carnival tower rooms. The Flamingo on the other hand has been long neglected with only the Go Rooms getting the complete treatment, but that's understandable given the size of the place.

    CET has been feeling the pressure to improve their resort product. I am hoping the Caesars renovations on Augustus and Palace tower turn out to be something special. Harrahs being on the low end of the resort portfolio has cleaned up nicely. Given the great asset they have in the pool and direct access to the Linq promenade it would be foolish for CET to not finally commit some real dollars to a top to bottom refresh of the Flamingo.
     
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    Yes, but all the rooms at Harrah's are supposed to be redone now. I believe that was announced with the CP and PH plans. By not being comprehensive, I mean that they aren't looking at doing everything at once the way they are talking about for Flamingo. It was the casino one year, now the rooms and no mention of nightclubs and the like as they are for Flamingo. I think Harrah's is a bit more important only because it's the flagship for one of their brands but Flamingo needs everything and the kitchen sink thrown at it too. Realistically, you can look at most of their product and find things that need work no matter what the recent capital investment has been, they are playing catch up and in the future they need to take the Wynn approach and commit to regular upgrades on a time schedule, not doing it when the customer complaints get too loud.
     
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    Checked into Flamingo last night for the first time. Pouring rain in Vegas... Checked in "on line" was told to stop my kiosk to get key. Kiosk(s) would not read my IL dl. Tried over and over. Went up to Key desk, lady smiled, said no problem. I was comped a fab king. She upgraded me to Executive king. So, I am on the top floor (28) with a nice northerly view. Room is nice, cleab, spacious. Bathroom is a normal hotel grade. Now, about these famous elevators...OMG...the sides "swing" back and forth as you ride it. Sometimes it will stop on every floor. Kinda interesting, but hey, its better than climbing 28 floors of stairs!
    BTW on a side note, what good are the escalotors on the overpasses if 85% of them dont work? I walked this morning from MGM to SLS. Climbed a lot of stairs!
     
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    How does Caesars have money for this?
     
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    I have Harrah's or Flamingo comped for 5 nights in November. I'll probably choose Harrah's just to
    This happens to me also. There are actually 2 websites when you sign in
    It depends which website you go to. If you go to Total Rewards to sign in, it will come up with just a partial list of rooms. If you go to Caesars and then sign in, you have a full list including the GO rooms.
    In my case, if i go to TR and sign in, i get rooms comped (standard, high roller, studio), and then goes directly to the Anthology Suites..........not showing any GO rooms.
    When i use Caesars to sign in, i get no comped rooms, the standard Fab rooms start at $29, even when i sign in. But they do show all the rooms, including the GO rooms, around $50 per night.
    Just look for the addys............Caesars.com., or Total Rewards.com. There is a difference.
     
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    By lowering VP odds, charging CNF fees at restauants and more 6/5 Blackjack.
     
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    There are two Caesars. Flamingo is in the one that is not in bankruptcy. I presume that organization can still borrow money at decent rates and because they shifted the worst debt to the part in bankruptcy, there is probably some cash as well.
     
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    They are in bankruptcy and litigation as to which company owes what.

    Also the CNF fee does not go to Caesars. They don't own the places that charge it.
     
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    I don't think that is entirely true. Even when CET does the room remodels, its a percentage. The Ultra Hip remodels at PHo only represented 10% of inventory. Now CP / Linq is a completely different story since they have been taking towers offline in some cases rather then blocks of floors at the other properties. Harrahs received a room "refresh" of all the rooms but not a top to bottom remodel like the Carnival south tower. Bottom line not all the floors / rooms at Harrahs have been fully redone. They have received new carpet, paint or linens over the past five years.
     
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