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Table Games Fire bet question

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by FullBoat, Aug 7, 2015.

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  1. FullBoat

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    I've never played the fire bet before, but I do know the general idea. My question is if/when someone hits it 6 times what happens after that(well after the cheering)? If they hit another point does that count as 1 or 6 again? I'm guessing that they reset the count after someone hits #6?
     
  2. ngrund

    ngrund Low-Roller

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    yes, if all 6 points are made after all the paperwork (w2gs) and payouts are done, it all starts over and new fire bets need to be placed
     
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    Yeah I figured they wouldn't want to pay that out a few times in a row.
     
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    They don't stop the game when someone makes all 6 different points. When the shooter is done ( finally seven out), those on the fire bet present ID (if necessary) and paperwork is done and everyone is paid.
    I have been on the firebet when the shooter made all 6 numbers. He rolled so long, he probably could have gone around a 2nd time.
     
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    Don't play it, total suckers bet. Just my two cents :)
     
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    Oh I know it's just like most side bets at the carny games. But since I've never played it I figure why not toss a couple of bucks on it. And with Franks titanium arm I can't lose right? :)
     
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    I would say I am way up on the features bets (Fire, All, Golden Dice, etc) for carps in my life, so I will continue to play. You hit that 6 point fire one time and your hooked forever.
     
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    Ditto... I hit a 5 point Fire at Horseshoe Hammond and the puck was on the 6th number (9). It had already been a monster roll so I hedged and layed a ton behind the 9. The shooter sevened-out and I got the money for the five points and the money for the lay bet.

    Hooked.

    Not a big fan of the All/Small/Tall bets. I was goaded by a dealer to put down a two-way all for a buck... and it hit. It was very exciting, but other than that, it hasn't held my interest.
     
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    I've thought of hedging when the shooter is working on the 6th number, but never have. How much did your hedge cost you vs what you were paid from the 5 numbers?
     
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    I have been pretty lucky with the fire bet. I have hit 6 numbers once. And I have hit 5 numbers 5 or 6 times, and I have hit 4 several times as well. So I would say I am up lifetime for the Fire Bet. I walked up to a table at the Paris one time and a guy had been rolling for a long time and eventually rolled a 5 point fire bet, no one was on it. The next shooter also rolled a 5 point, I was on that one.
     
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    I only had $1 on the Fire bet, so after 5 numbers hit I was at $250. When the puck went on the 9, I layed $300 (to win $200) and when the shooter sevened out, I made $450 (the $250 from the Fire and $200 on the layed 9).

    Had the shooter rolled the 9, I would have made $700 ($1000 from the Fire less the $300 I had bet against the 9).
     
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    My man! That's the smart way to bet!
     
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    You can also sometimes lay the all bet when there's one number left...only if the last number is not a horn number though...
     
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    The table didn't think so when the seven showed on the dice...
     
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    But the table didn't win money on the Lay bet when the 7 hit, like you did.
     
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    Excuse my ignorance. But if you layed 300 to win 200, don't you need to subtract 100 from your 450 winnings?



    Delete post please. Took me a minute for the bet to sink in.
     
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    Would you have hedged the same ratio if your firebet was $10???
     
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    Great theoretical question. I don't have the bankroll for a $10 table, much less a $10 Fire bet!
     
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    I always play the firebet. I'm usually on there for $5 or $10.
    Using the ratio in your scenario, with a $5 firebet, I'd gain 1000, but lose 1500 with a 5# or 6# win. I've never hedged. I've always been more concerned with the amount of money on the table since I press my numbers every time it hits. If there is firebet money to be paid, my numbers have a lot riding.
     
  20. FuzzyDiceCraps

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    I always throw $5-$1 on the fire. Its a sucker bet, but I never want to be the one at the table without money on it when it hits.

    This past trip at O'Sheas, a shooter (not me sadly) hit a 6, 5, and 4 point fire bets on consecutive series. It was unreal. Unfortunately I missed all but the last, but it was all the dealers talked about for hours after.
     
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