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Extra night hurts ADT?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by grosx2, Jun 25, 2013.

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  1. grosx2

    grosx2 VIP Whale

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    I was just reading a thread that discussed how no play days can affect your ADT, and therefore your future comps. I always fly home from Vegas on Monday, usually around 6pm or so. Since my flight leaves so late in the day, I always book my hotel room thru Monday night so I don't have to be "homeless" for 4 or 5 hours before heading to the airport (Monday night is always free on the rate calendar, so I figure "why not?"). Also, I don't ever formally check out; I just leave. Based on what I've read, I'm guessing that this additional night hurts my ADT, since the "computer" thinks I was there until Tuesday, but didn't play at all on Monday?

    If the answer is yes, would going to the front desk and actually checking out on Monday afternoon solve that issue, even if I originally booked the room til Tuesday morning checkout? Thanks....
     
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    Honestly, I think ADT is just action and your card. No action is better than $20 action for the day. The comped rooms are a result of previous action you've given the casino. I don't think they correlate length of stay with action, and it's just daily activity on the card for determining future comps.
     
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    You did not mention the casino.

    MGM uses multiple days and not single days as the factor, so one more day is usually not a problem.

    CET uses a real day. There are varied opinons if the hotel activity will impact you or not. You can always see the last day of "something" in your TR account online. I have stayed at a hotel and NOT played and the date does not move. So, I have a fair belief that hotel day does not hurt. But, not positive.

    In your situation, I would still "checkout" on Monday and not wait for the system to do it on Tuesday. Even with a "normal" departure time, I clear all charges with points the night before - if I remember.
     
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    This is true if you are not staying on their property or use other comps. However, if you are comped a room, and you show no action, then once the comp reports are generated, it will show that you were comped a room, and no played, which means your 0 ADT is being calculated into the number of days of the trip to get your average daily theo for the trip.

    There appears to be a lot of misconceptions regarding whether to no play affects your ADT if you stay on their property.

    As a point of clarification, if you don't stay at the casino and plan to not use any other comps, then perhaps it would be better to not play than to drop $20 into their machines, as this creates a trip with a play of $20, which will unlikely generate much theo, unless you are very, very, very lucky.

    However, if you are comped a room by the casino, you are expected to play. The notion that only Activity will affect your ADT is not true.

    In the casino business, if the casino "gives" you something, including a free room, then there is expectation that you play/show action. In fact, the casino will find any excuse to count a day as extra play, especially at CET. So in this case, a $20 play is better than no play, if and when you have already been identified on the radar as being on their property.

    Obviously, if you choose to not believe this, then continue on with trying to no play them on comped rooms.

    Additionally, just from a logical perspective, say you were comped a room for 5 nights, and decided to only play the first night, and show absolutely no activity the remaining 4 nights, would the casino really just consider that your play should be divvy up by 1 night to get your avg theo? Casinos love to get you into their casinos whenever they can, and they have a system in place to determine when you are comped something and no play.
     
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    Thanks for the info....I'll just start checking out Monday afternoon, better safe than sorry.
     
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    In this specific case, I'm thinking that it probably doesn't make a ton of difference whether you check out in the afternoon or not. I've been told that CET properties start their new "trip day" at 6 a.m., and I would think that they account for the fact that most people who check out at the normal time are not putting in much, if any, play between 6 a.m. and 11 a.m. on checkout day. Presuming that you're gambling during the daytime on those Mondays until you depart at 6 p.m., then your comp room for that night is within the same trip day anyway.
     
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    That's the thing though, I play very little, if at all, on Monday afternoon, to the point where I probably wouldn't even use my card based on what I've read on VMB. That's why I'm thinking it may be beneficial to check out Monday afternoon, so I don't have a no play day.
     
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    It's worth noting that CET recently changed their system and no longer uses ADT, it's now MDV. It is said that it better accounts for play across multiple cities in the same city and also better averages based on trip. Of course, since nobody here knows exactly, it'll be some time before theories are proven.
     
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    Not pertinent to the OP, just a fyi. Boyd downtown starts their day at midnight. If you insert your card, even just to check your balance, it counts as a day in the average.

    We're not big fans of early flights, so we usually have time to gamble the last morning and never use our cards for an hour or two of play.

    The times we do end up on an early flight, we have to remember to remove our cards the night before, :drunk:before midnight, or it counts as another day.:poke:
     
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