I am not sure why Rounder's thread was closed as there was no name calling or anything, but whatever. I wanted to ask on that thread what is objectionable to the move he wanted to make, a fake push, "oops I made a mistake" to fake his opponent out. What's the difference between something like that and thinking long and hard over what to do when you know you have the nuts? I heard Brunson Doyle say he thought that check raising was a chicken sh*t move, but now people do it all the time. I didn't get that either when he said it. Is not everything fair game in love and war and poker? I am not talking about showboating, like slow rolling, and that sort of thing. I am talking about tactics during a hand.