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Envelope System

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by thekillers, Jun 12, 2014.

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  1. thekillers

    thekillers Low-Roller

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    So I'm going to try the envelope system this trip. Just curious, how much can you bring on a plane with you, in the carry on? Is there a limit or is that only for international flights? Not that I probably even come anywhere close to that but I was wondering if there was a limit to the amount of cash you can travel with.
     
  2. DeMoN2318

    DeMoN2318 The DERS

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    I have carried 5k with no questions at all...
     
  3. dutchvelvet

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    No legal limit to how much cash you can bring on a plane on a domestic flight. You may get asked why you have a bunch (It would need to be lot more than 5k) but if you do just answer honestly.

    If you want to feel safer, send a wire to the cage, get a cashier's check to the cage, or get a marker.
     
  4. Kickin

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    You only have to declare cash if you're flying international and its over 10k.

    We have the right to carry as much cash as we want without declaring it on a domestic flight but apparently it doesn't preclude TSA from notifying law enforcement if they think its suspect. Its never happened to me or anyone I know, but you can read stories about it online. Just like the police can confiscate your money if they "think" its suspect and then leave the onus on you to prove it isn't. A fucked up violation of civil liberties.

    You can read it here, the directive to do this from the TSA's COO is on the last page: https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/TSA.Switzer_Decl_attachments_1_2_and_3_0.pdf
     
  5. RockyBalboa

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    I've carried $10k just fine. If TSA would've questioned me then I would've simply told them I'm going to Vegas and could've shown a law enforcement officer the withdrawal from the bank if they were inclined to ask.

    But wiring ahead or if your bank has a branch in Vegas is always safer options.
     
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    Unless you are carrying a briefcase full of cash you should be safe.
    With $100 bills you can carry a lot in a little space.
     
  7. RiddickBull

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    I always bring cash to Vegas over 10k. I think you would be fine if you brought a lot more.

    As Kickin said, you need to declare 10k+ if it is international. I know some people who fly international (leaving the US) with more than 10k and don't declare it. They have never been caught, but I'm guessing you pay a fine or they take it if caught.
     
  8. hillwood24

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    If TSA asks, always answer with "Am I legally obligated to answer that question?" You'll get a variety of answers from them because they simply don't know their own rules.

    Also, as a general rule of thumb, try and video record all dealings with the TSA. It could end up being very valuable.
     
  9. 33hard6

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    I never empty the cash out of my pocket when clearing security and I have had over 10k before, just don't use any money clips or paperclips to secure any of it and you shouldn't even have to take it out of your pocket, Ill be dammed if I have to put that cash on the conveyer belt
     
  10. RockyBalboa

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    Yeah I leave it in my front pocket. I never got through the stupid X-ray machines so I keep the cash in there until the pat down and then I hold it in my hand while the TSA feels me up.
     
  11. Backagain1

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    Can you elaborate? I took cash last time with nothing around it, and not much just a few hundred. I was told to take it out and that I could not have anything on me. I want to take about 500 this trip and have been trying to figure out how since I have been pickpocketed before. Can I put 5 100 dollar bills in my jeans pocket with a rubber band around them through airport security?
     
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    If you're going to refuse the absurd xray machines and take the pat down or if you're going through a metal detector then yes you can leave it in your pocket. Only in the body scanners do they make you take everything out.

    If I'm patted down they tell me to empty my pockets. I do and then they do their thing. A couple times they've asked me how much money I've had and I tell them "enough for my trip to Vegas" or something like that.
     
  13. Gdicke13

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    I usually take $15-20g w the "envelope system". Never once had a question or problem. I keep it tucked away in my carry on and it goes through, although I never take my eyes off the belt!
     
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    Just an additional reply pertaining to storing it.
    I don't bother keeping it in my pocket.
    It is kept in my carry-on.
    I don't go through the x-ray or what-ever until my bag is in the x-ray machine and I always watch it.
    When it pops out i keep an eye on it too.
    Only out of my sight for a few seconds.
    When traveling with my wife she goes through first and I will wait until the bag is way in the machine before i go this way its covered on both ends.
    A bit over the top but so far no issues.
     
  15. BeeeJay

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    ahhh the envelope system, I remember thee fondly.....

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  16. 33hard6

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    $500? you can put that anywhere, I would just have that in my wallet or inside my carry on.
     
  17. Rut Dog

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    I don't refuse xray machines, and I will carry up to 5K in my pocket. When I step up to the Xray I simply hold it in my hand and show the TSA officer.

    They have never said anything, and I get the idea they would prefer not to handle a large amount of cash. Think about the hassle from their end if there is a dispute about missing cash. It is much easier for them If the cameras show they never touched it.
     
  18. sindustry

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    I don't fly to vegas often, but the last time I did, I had 5k in each front pocket and 10k in a waistband money pouch. Never took out the cash during security line and was never asked to. I just assumed they either dont see the cash in the xray or they do and can clearly tell it is cash.
     
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    Classic!! I remember that trip report well!!

    OT: Thankfully I never had a problem with it being in my carryon, even during an extended screening with telling them my flight is to Vegas, they immediately say good luck and sent me on my way with just under 9K and most in 20'S due to horrible bank I use not having many 100's or 50's.
     
  20. Joe

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    I have a line of credit but usually bring about 2k for the first night. If going through the scanner, I just hold it in my hand above my head. If I'm going through the metal detector, I just leave it in my pocket.
     
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