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El Cortez - Will $50/hand get their attention?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by dooner, Dec 9, 2012.

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  1. dooner

    dooner High-Roller

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    A little background first - I'm basically a NYNY home casino Pai Gow Poker player. I play about $75 / hand for 4 hours/day - and have been receiving standard 3 nights/$100 free play for about 4 years (depending upon when I visit, of course, slight differences - up and down for free play/suites). I know the pit bosses/dealers/cocktail wattresses very well, and get excellent treatment.

    I am staying (for the first time) at El Cortez for one night on Dec. 26 (Wed. night) --> on their $30/night + $15 free play, $15 food credit deal.

    I am thinking of giving them between $25 - $50 / hand on Pai Gow Poker that night. Then, to return in April (hopefully on an offer?)

    So.............

    Will that be enough comp the room at check out?
    Any food comp available?
    Future offers?
    Host - enough play (at $50/hand) to bother asking about?

    Also, will they have a Pai Gow table open that evening - or should I focus my attention elsewhere? (I stayed at the Cabana Jr. Suite on a solo trip in August for one short night - gave virtually no play then).
     
  2. dunebug81

    dunebug81 VIP Whale

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    I can't answer your questions but I'd beware of the PGP pay tables. Ivve noticed that some of the downtown properties have a reduced pay table. Golden gate comes to mind(2,000:1 for the 7CSF vs the normal 8,000:1 all pays for the Royal Flush and up have been lowered....and they will only take $5 max on the bonus bet.
     
  3. CenterfieldNine

    CenterfieldNine Low-Roller

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    For suite consideration it's 100 a hand straight from nords malilay but I forget the hours (I assume 4) and I think what you mentioned should get hotel offers though things have gone down with offers this year.

    You will get lots of food comp dollars. Nords is their host.
     
  4. dooner

    dooner High-Roller

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    So, when you compare El Cortez action to other downtown properties, is it comparable?

    What are the odds of comping hotel room off with $25-$50 hand on Pai Gow for 4 hours?

    One other note - I rarely play the bonus - I'm more interested in the dealer personality - that is what gives the hotel my loyalty.
     
  5. CenterfieldNine

    CenterfieldNine Low-Roller

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    If you are looking for dealer personality, el Cortez is the wrong place or you. They are all stone walls unless you're a tipping regular in my opinion. I have a server and two dealers that I am friendly with but everyone else, even with tips, is not talkative or friendly. Some of the lowest wages on avg including tokes in all of Clark county.

    And honestly I don't think you're any more likely to get hotel there than not. I love the place but for what you require it just seems wrong. I think for that action you're a better fit elsewhere downtown. I would say Fremont but the I always have bad luck at craps and pai gow with mean dealers. Bj ad roulette is always fine
     
  6. merlin

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    I'm not sure they even have pai gow most of the time, I agree the dealers are mostly zombies. actually not zombies, they seem to want you to lose, I've gone on some nice runs there, have tipped very well during it, and had them get increasingly agitated with my winning, it's a very strange atmosphere most times.The pit critters have possibly less personality than the dealers as well.
     
  7. Nevada Kid

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    I agree, if personality is important go with a Boyd Casino. Always had great dealers at MSS!
     
  8. theshaah

    theshaah Low-Roller

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    Sometimes they have a deal in april where if you stayed any other time of year you can stay for free in april. Keep in mind that last year they did NOT include any special offers under this program!
     
  9. alexanbo

    alexanbo High-Roller

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    I had fun playing at Golden Gate my last trip. They had the reader to set dealer hands there so they had the girls that dealt blackjack in the party pit dealing PGP. They didn't really believe me when i told them the wheel was the second highest straight though.
     
  10. MikeOPensacola

    MikeOPensacola VIP Whale

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    In all honesty I would not stay at the EC regardless of any room deals. Unless its the only manger in town, I'd stay at the GN or a Boyd property. No sense in playing for comps when the hotel is marginal at best and the staff is rude, IMHO.
     
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    Very well stated,,I agree why??...Ec is ok but to play 50-100 dollars a hand to hope for a suite over looking what???

    Yep I'd pass on this place
     
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