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El Cortez vs. 4Queens

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels & Casinos' started by kinkette, Feb 16, 2014.

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  1. kinkette

    kinkette Low-Roller

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    I just found out that the ElCo is now charging a "resort fee". Normally I wouldn't mind, but they don't even have a pool! I'm thinking of changing my reservations to the 4Queens - any comments or advise?
     
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    I'm 34, stayed at El Cortez a year ago, and gotta say it wasn't for me. Particularly the casino. I did like their cafe.

    In my opinion if you are going to stay downtown, you might as well get right in the middle of it and stay on Fremont.
     
  3. marksind

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    And to make matters worse, ElCo's prime rib special has gone from 7.95 to 9.95! Found that out last week when we got the bill. I still think it's a better piece of meat than Four Queens or the Cal.

    Having stayed at both in the past year, I'd give the nod to the Four Queens if prices are remotely comparable "all in." Rooms aren't much better than ElCo tower, but location and casino are better (better video poker, anyway). Don't know the status of the Binion's rooftop pool (wouldn't be open this time of year anyway). That's what you used to do for the Four Queens. Not convenient, but it's actually kind of cool. Outstanding view, private, and nice lounge area.
     
  4. makikiboy

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    I think it all depends on what you want. IMHO, the cabana suites are way nicer than the standard 4 queens rooms, especially if you get a free upgrade to their suites.

    Some people like the 4q because it is convenient, right on the center of the FSE, the EC is a little out of the ways but not very far away.

    It probably comes down to whether the EC or 4q is worth the money, and extra resort fee. Some people will pay the resort fee to stay at places like the Plaza and D while others won't stay there because of the resort fee.

    You should probably compare prices, including the resort fee in your daily rates. The EC vintage room rates are probably less than the 4Q rooms, even with the resort fee (of course the rates could change so YMMV).

    btw, the EC is supposed to be putting in a pool, not sure the status of that, they also have a workout room (supposed to be available if you pay the resort fee) but it is probably worth it only if you use it IMHO.

    It comes down to whether or not you want to spend for the extra resort fee. Maybe you like to stay at the EC and so will pay the extra fee? Some people like to stay at the EC and so will pay the fee, others will just check rates and stay at the place with the lowest rates, including all fees and resort fees.

    btw, IMHO, I rather have the prime rib special at the Cal, comes with a lot more stuff (soup or salad bar, cherries jubilee for dessert, but the Cal also raised prices for their prime rib to 9.95 or something close - 10.95?). I tried the prime rib at the EC and I wasn't impressed. But that's JMHO.
     
  5. Marky147

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    I am staying at El Cortez for the first night of my trip in June, and am actually looking forward to seeing the place.

    I got 16 nights at the Nugget from the 22nd for under $800, but I save $500 on my flight by coming out a day early on the 21st.

    That's EDC weekend though, so it was $250 to stay at the Nugget on the 1st night, and $50 for a night at El Cortez.

    I intend to spend the $200 in Flame, and on Martinis at the bar :drunk:
     
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  6. kinkette

    kinkette Low-Roller

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    Thanks to everyone for the input :nworthy: We really like staying Downtown but my husband is having an issue paying a resort fee for a non-resort hotel, you know? Anyway, am currently checking out all the options and will keep all posted but honestly, I like the El Cortez - though it's been a few years since we've stayed there. I'm hoping the customer service, etc. hasn't gone downhill....
     
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    Last time I used the pool for the 4 Queens it was the Plaza Pool
     
  8. robert m.

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    I stay at the 4 Queens a couple of times per year. I have visited the El Cortez, but never stayed there.

    I really appreciate the location of 4Qs in the middle of the FSE.

    Plus, I just have a comfort level with everything at 4Qs.
     
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    The Queens has more playable games, better location, better atmosphere. More food choices also.
     
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    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    Ummm...not blackjack, they don't.

    The two-deck game at the El-Co is the best downtown...one of the best low-limit games in the city ($3 min, 3:2, h17, DAS, with about 66% pen.)

    :beer:
     
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    Completely agree.
     
  12. dewey089

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    A number of us are doing this balancing.


    It really depends on what matters most:

    EL CORTEZ

    The El Cabana or Tower rooms are better than 4 Queens rooms.
    The blackjack ($5 single deck 3/2 ) and the craps ($3 with ten times odds) is better.
    If you look, you can find video poker that is full pay. Not JOB, but coin dropped DB 10/7.

    FOUR QUEENS

    There is not DB 10/7 better than what they offer in the world. It is full pay and a progressive royal on top of that full pay table.
    9/6 JOB is there.
    Nickle single zero roulette give you the best video roulette in Vegas for low rollers. It still earns points. In my opinon, one only plays roulette for fun so why not make it cheap.
    Binions pool is hit and miss. Some days it is not open. I don't like the music. It is better than the El Cortez pool because their pool is still an imaginative dream.
    Location is much better.
    And live poker is more accessible. Golden Nugget is nearby. El Cortez now closed their poker room.

    I find the 4 Queens comps unigue. Mailings are for three nights rather than the usual 2 nights and can be used over the weekend. Separate mailings for slot tournaments may mean that I can get two weekends covered in the same month. Overlapping months lets me cover two weekends with comps. Freeplay is very generous. And everything I earn is from playing those best in the world DB 10/7 machines.

    El Cortez has of late reduced comps even to long time customers. Some folks do really well, but others write their frustrations on the board. If I was going to seed a casino with play for a future trip, it would be the 4 Queens and not the El Cortez.
    I've been filling my downtown days with 4 Queens weekends backed up with 2 for 1 D comps for weekdays. The check in and check out are very easy. No early check in fees. Hardly any distance between the two back doors. Often I can make a few trips during the time I have both rooms and so I don't have to pack it all up carefully, cut carry it in loads and empty the suitcase.

    I've been filling in with American Casino Guide coupons which were giving me 2 nights at the Cabana for just over $50, but I think I got caught in the resort fee coupon invalidation, so now I have more math to do and I don't think it will work. I won't stay in Pavillion or Vintage. Too basic and too noisy and no room. So, I'm considering using MyVegas for some free nights on the strip, or a week or so out Boulder at Sam's Town where I can average $20 a night some weeks even with resort fees. Good VP. Full pay deuces at the dime level (nickel machine with 10 being the needed bet for full pay) Full pay also at Eastside Cannery but I've yet to score a free room there even with some play. I do get free buffets and some other benefits from their Web game section, but it is a hassle and focused more on locals than on me. Still, I love their rooms and I might just pay for them. They offer $10 to seniors off rack rate.
     
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    10/7 Progressive

    A bit off topic, but Dewey's comments prompt this tale. The progressive on the 10/7 double bonus machines at the Four Queens was up to over $1400 when we were there week before last. People were banging them hard. We saw a couple there one day from morning til the wee hours. I have no idea how they did, but they didn't hit the progressive. We took our shot, but for some reason those machines always abuse me.

    I think it was Thursday morning (would have been 2/6) we sat down again for another try. We were down about $100 when a grandmotherly woman sits next to us and puts in $20. You guessed it, she hits it on about her fourth or fifth hand. Her kids and grandkids (young adults themselves) were nearby and all came over to celebrate. We were happy for her too (she was a nice woman), but of course would have been happier still for us! My wife's been playing video poker for five or six years and still hasn't had a royal.
     
  14. robert m.

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    Yep, that progressive 10/7 at 4Qs is addictive!

    I went about four years without hitting it.

    Then, I hit it on the first day of the trip for two trips in a row. It was in the $1,100 range, so no IRS report.

    When I was there a month ago, I noticed that they took out two or three of the machines next to the Magnolia's entrance & replaced them with slot machines.
     
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    I hope the others don't go away.
    Two trips ago I had a royal dealt to me there.
     
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    What is often funny about those 4Q 10/7 DB Progessives is how the crowd of players changes. When the Jackpot is hit, and resets at 1000, the players disappear ... when it gets back to between 1100 and 1199, the seats are typically pretty full. However, I have seen several instances when the Jackpot goes up to 1200 to 1250, and players temporarily disappear, since the W-2 taxes would greatly diminish their winnings. And once the Jackpot gets back to 1300, the players fill up those seats once again.

    One night a few years back, I could not even come close to hitting the Royal, but the Quads were rolling in ... Aces, 2's, 3's, 4's ... and I eventually cashed out with a profit of $925. I pocketed my winnings, and decided that was my version of a short-pay Royal, and no need to give it back. :thumbsup:
     
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    Awesome story!
    I wish those machines weren't uprights. I hate uprights...my wrist starts to hurt. Bartops and slants tops are so much more comfortable!
     
  18. kinkette

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    Hi everyone and THANK YOU for all the input! After considering all the options and budget we've decided on staying at Sam's Town. My husband isn't a gambler - he collects chips and silver strikes and staying at ST will afford him other things to do while I gamble :) I think we'll enjoy the pool, movie theater, atrium, etc.

    Again though, I so appreciate all the good points and advise and we are planning on spending lots of time downtown and even an evening or three on the strip LOL
     
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