Seems pretty clear from the downtown topics and posts that most of us must fit the stereotype (middle-aged and up). Maybe because of that, I don't see any topics devoted to bars/clubs beyond the FSE. Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these places? Any good recommendations and/or experiences? I'm beyond the point of being interested in the night clubs on the strip, but go to Vegas enough to occasionally want something other than the casino environment for a drink. My choice downtown (East Fremont) is The Griffin. Way different atmosphere than anything I've seen in Vegas (a grotto theme). Quite cozy upfront, with a friendly (somewhat "goth" style) bar staff and mostly local clientele. I've not been there late at night, but it can get very crowded on Fri/Sat, at which time they have a back room with music.