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Downtown Update

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels & Casinos' started by marksind, Mar 8, 2015.

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  1. marksind

    marksind Low-Roller

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    Just returned from a Tuesday-Saturday trip, staying the first night at the Golden Nugget and the next three at the Downtown Grand. Here are some general comments/observations.

    The regular check in line was long and moving slowly when we arrived at the Golden Nugget mid-afternoon. My wife reminded me about VIP check in with the Landry's Card. Entering the VIP office, I was the only customer and was helped by the two women attending. I asked for about an upgrade (we'd booked the Carson Tower on the Golden Nugget's web site on the last day of the $5 "Fremont Street Experience" fee). They gave a pool-facing remodeled Gold Tower room. The remodel is very nice. I'll post some pictures of the room separately once I've downloaded them. Used to be I didn't think the Gold Tower rooms were anything special. Now they are. The final charge was correct - $5 fee, not $20. Last time for that!

    The GN has opened the new upstairs area you access via a fancy broad stairway just past the pool in the main hallway. It's got a bunch of large conference rooms as well as the wedding chapel. Very classy and worth a look if you're just wandering around.

    We moved to the DTG because my wife had the next three nights comped. Good deal for Friday, given normally higher rates and the fact that things got busy due to the NASCAR races over the weekend. It was totally comped - no resort fee. This was our third time staying there since the redo, and I still really like the place. The regular rooms are good-sized and bright and fairly quiet if you ask for the east side of the casino tower or west side of the west tower. Many VMBers mention the half doors in the shower. We don't find that as annoying as the fact that there's no shower caddy or soap dish, so the only place for the soap and shampoo is the shower floor. Small complaint, but seems like something they could easily address.

    The wifi at the DTG is included and is very good, a rarity in Vegas. They also give you two bottles of water a day, a free paper (at the front desk), and free morning coffee at the Commissary on the first floor of the west tower. It's good coffee and well attended since it's right next to their normal coffee counter. The place has a sort of "boutique" vibe that we find relaxing. Unfortunately, they continue to mess with their casino in unfavorable ways. The good news for all who have been sweating the 6/5 Blackjack is that it appears to only be the two-deck game. Everything else I saw is still 3/2. The bad news is that despite our mailer advertising "99%+ Video Poker" the only game we could find that's 99%+ (at least at the quarter level) is the 8/5 Bonus Poker, same ones they've always had.

    Also, they still promote their "Senior Thursday" where all food at the S+O Cafe is half price and those over 50 (like us) earn 5x points. The change since we played there in December is that they now make a big distinction between "base points" which don't vary with promos, and "bonus points" like the 5x ones. In December we racked up significant food and free play comps on Thursday. Not so last Thursday. Now they are earned only from "base points." Nobody at the Player's Club could tell me what the "bonus points" are good for anymore. I asked three people over the course of the day. WTF? Is the promo just for suckers? Is this common practice at Vegas casinos?

    The Fremont Street Experience is truly getting overrun with beggars and "performers" now that the weather's nice. During the day they often seemed to outnumber tourists. In the past we just walked past them, but this time we were approached numerous times and asked for handouts. I refuse to acknowledge them and was followed for some distance by one guy. At night they're so thick you have to weave your way through them in some places. My wife is about ready to call it quits as she just finds it too gross and disgusting. Too many "diaper" and "nut sack" guys and fat "show girls" and saggy "boob queens."

    So we ventured where we hadn't gone before - the shuttle to Sam's Town. What a find! A full-size luxury bus, not an airport-type shuttle, on schedule every time. We were impressed with Sam's Town. Great variety of stuff, some really good machines, and even a $5 Pai Gow table (no mas downtown). We ended up going there three afternoons. Comps at the Boyd casinos are indeed tight. I can see why regulars like Joe are getting discouraged. We played a lot at Sam's Town, California, and Fremont at the quarter level (which includes dropping $100 in about 15 minutes twice at the multi-hand Super Times Pay machines at the Fremont) and accumulated very little. I love those STP machines, but they hate me. When you get the 10x multiplier like I did Saturday morning and get nothing it hurts!

    The Plaza seemed a bit more active this trip. The scent in the casino wasn't as powerful and the sports book has been cleaned up. Didn't see any bums hanging out, maybe because they've removed the comfortable seating. Free play can't be used in the video poker machines and we didn't have much luck otherwise, so we only played there a bit one day. The short-skirted cocktail waitress who wears a ton of makeup and must be at least 75 is still there, and in fact was riding the bus with us to downtown from Sam's Town one afternoon. She said her car was in the shop. I can't imagine still having to go to the coal face at that point in life!

    The progressive at the Four Queens on the 10/7 Double Bonus machines got over $1400 last Thursday. People were banging 'em hard. We tried a couple of times when we could get adjacent machines, but just contributed to the jackpot growth. One guy was there every time we checked. He'd worked $100 up to over $1200 without hitting the royal Thursday. Someone hit it by Friday morning. As another VMBer mentioned, they just cut the points earned on those machines to something like 1 point for every $16 played, apparently about a week ago.

    Some of our favorite machines are the progressive Bonus Poker machines at The D upstairs bar, and the "best video poker machine in America," the nickel Dueces Wild machine nearby. We drank too much with a couple of fellow Seattleites one night at the bar while making a few bucks, and Saturday morning I continued my run of hitting the four dueces for $125 on the nickel machine. Seems I do it once every trip. My wife will play it and I'll take over when she needs a break. I'm the one who always hits it, though she's on it 90% of the time. And 7 years and counting, we're still awaiting her first royal.

    East Fremont is a good break from the FSE. If you want to check it out, there's often a Groupon for the Vanguard Lounge. $20 for $40 of drinks is the one we get. They are craft cocktails, so your $20 gets you four drinks. It's stark but relaxed. Every time we've gone, usually around 9 pm or so, Jackie has been the bartender. She's great at making complex cocktails and makes us feel at home even though we're older than the average patron. Others at the bar are often chatty too. We hang out for an hour or two to get the ringing of the machines out of our heads.

    Farther down the Container Park's tenancy seems to have stabilized, more focused on food and beverages and less on boutiques. It's a very safe walk and another nice break. The new grocery store along the way has great baked goods at good prices.

    What else? Slotzilla is operating at both levels. IMHO, a monstrosity that ruins the view at both ends of the FSE. The FSE stage acts continue to vary from great to just OK. I don't think they've ever found an act as good as Lady GoGo for the Main Street stage. She could really get the crowd going. The overhead light show sorely needs some new material. At this point after several years of staying downtown I think I know them all by heart as well as the order.

    Overall, a mixed bag, but of course, we'll be back!
     
  2. Joe

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    Thanks for that report and update!
     
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    Being a true downtown lover, thanks for the great update. We stay at the CAL and the majority of our play goes towards the Boyd properties. We also like Sam's and often take the shuttle service there for a break. I agree with FSE getting overrun. That is certainly one of the benefits of playing between the CAL and MSS....we have the option to avoid the craziness. I hope the Grand does well.....I like the feel of the place.

    Thanks for giving me my downtown fix.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your TR. I hope DTG get's there player's club up to date. I am still waiting for my April offers. Where does the Sam's town shuttle pick you up? Is it a free service?
     
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    I agree...Sam's Town is a great find ($5 PaiGow, 20x odd craps, great video poker, good food value)
    For decent points, you either have to be Emerald (get 3x points automatically) or catch them on a 7x point multiplier (then you can accrue points pretty decently)
    If you're just a base Ruby, then it takes $600 coin-in to just earn $1 in food comps (which can seem a little rough, if you're a 25c player and having a bad streak)
     
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    Great update; thanks for the post.
     
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    Thanks for the update. We'll be there soon and can use the good updated info.
     
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    Thanks for the info! Very helpful as I'm contemplating my first DT stay and eyeing GN amd DTG.
     
  9. Jane42

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    Thanks so much for the great trip report! I am looking forward to heading there in April and was thinking we would take the bus to Sam's Town. I have never been there before and friends stay there every time they head to Vegas.
     
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    Thanks for the report. Makes me want to try out Sam's Town since I have never been there. Heading to the Golden Nugget April 18th. What time is the bus to Sam's Town and where do you catch it from? Thanks in advance.
     
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    TomTWI High-Roller

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    I love downtown also too bad my wife doesn't

    Thanks for the report.

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  12. marksind

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    The bus to Sam's Town leaves from the Fremont and then goes to the California. From there it goes to Sam's Town, taking only about 18 minutes to make the trip. We always caught it at the California since it stops there for about 10 minutes after leaving the Fremont. It stops first at the Fremont coming from Sam's Town, so we always got off there. It starts about 8 am and runs until something like 8:30 pm, roughly every hour and fifteen minutes. There is a published schedule near the check-in desk at the California, probably at the Fremont as well. They also have a pamphlet you can take with the schedule in a holder on the wall by the garage exit. The bus is free, though the driver of course appreciates a tip.
     
  13. Jen Jen

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    Good to know. Thank you!
     
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    Thanks for this report. I am now thinking about getting the bus to Sam's Town.
     
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    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    marksind, we probably missed each other downtown and on the Sam's Town shuttles. Of course we don't know how each other looks like. I just got back tonight and like a true degenerate I logged on here to catch up.

    Your assessment of downtown is spot on, didn't you think that diaper man and obese topless ladies were too much? God help you if diaper man catches your eye for he'll stare you down and start preeming on you, pretending that you're attracted to him. I know it's all in good fun but it sure is creepy. And those ladies....sigh. What can I say. Except say no more...:eek:

    Yep. Nascar sure brought a lot of people Downtown. The craps tables at ALL properties were just crowded and jumping!

    Thanks for your update! I agree and noticed all of the things you noted. :thumbsup:
     
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    One thing about Boyd properties, especially Sams Town is they comp free rooms very easily. Give them some play and offers will start.
     
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    I've never been to Sams, I think this trip will be the one where we'll make the effort. By Pai Gow did you mean Pai Gow poker or regular Pai Gow? I love PGP, it's slow and relaxing and a nice break from the craps table.

    The number of "freaks" downtown does seem to continue to rise. They are all over the strip too of course but I guess they are more spread out, it doesn't seem as bad.
     
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    Thanks for the info, particularly Vanguard Lounge, we like FSE but Commonwealth is the only place we've drank at.
     
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    Electoguy,

    Sorry we didn't connect! I've met a few VMBers during our visits. Last year we met Joe and his lovely wife Jodie, presiding over the Boar's Head Bar at Main Street Station. Turned out there was a VMBer get together a bit later. Ended up with about eight of us, not including spouses. Good time and a diverse group. One was a cop from Norway who comes for a couple of weeks every year. I think we irritated the staff a bit because we shared a few beers while talking a lot more than playing.

    Vegasvic,
    Yes, Pai Gow Poker, not tiles. Best table game for relaxing while pushing money back and forth and drinking! I'm a low roller and more of a social table player than a serious one. For those reasons I like the low limit tables. Not many serious gamblers there. Sam's Town has a generally older clientele, and the couple of hours I played everyone at the table, including the dealers, carried on a lively conversation about whatever. It was fun and I even finished up a bit. There are a lot of empty $10 Pai Gow Poker tables during the daytime downtown now. I don't know why the casinos think it's better to have the table closed until night or have a dealer standing there with no one playing rather than lower the limit.
     
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