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Downtown Trip

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by DonD, Oct 12, 2007.

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  1. DonD

    DonD Super Moderator

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    My Trip Report

    Sunday 10/7

    We decided to drive to Vegas a day early, as we always seem to do. Had two free rooms at the Gold Strike in Jean and gave one to Jennifer’s (my wife) granddaughter and her husband. Her daughter and her husband were to drive in on Monday.

    Check in was a breeze and after dropping off the luggage in our rooms, step-grandson-in-law and I took off for the DDB VP machines and a beer. Before the waitress could bring the beer, I hit four aces with kicker ($500).Got several more four of a kinds and GSIL was now hooked on VP. He asked me, how do they make money in these places? I told him that he would find out.

    We then took him over to the craps table, which is $2 minimum and 2X odds. He did badly and I didn’t do much better, but, the break-in dealers there were not picking up the odds bets on some seven outs and neither I nor anyone else at the table pointed that out to them. I lost anyway and tried some $2 BJ for a couple of hours with no luck.

    We ate at the buffet which is a very hit and miss place and the food THIS time was pretty good and the price was better, comped.

    Monday 10/8

    Drove into Vegas about noon and checked into the Vegas Club, we had three rooms with one comped and the other two at casino rate. Check-in was a hassle because all the rooms were in my name and I wanted the other two rooms to be in my step-daughter-in-laws and GDIL names and the male clerk was a jerk and could not figure out how to do it. Anyway, it did get done and all rooms were in the North Tower and I found them to be pretty nice.

    The four kids had front row center tickets to see the Phantom of the Opera at $150 per pop and left for the Venetian and when they got back, they said it was worth every penny, that is except for my GSIL who told me that he would have rather used the money for playing. He loves gambling now. I tried to teach him the better was to play and he was a little stubborn in the beginning as we all were. He is learning and I will loan him some of my books to study. Sure makes gambling more fun when played somewhat properly.

    Latter that afternoon, we went over to the Plaza to see some of our friends and got a call from fellow board member/friend Coaster Kikky (Becky) saying that she was coming down to visit us for a few. When she got there, we did our hellos and hit the VP machines at the bar. I did badly and she did worse. The bar machines are not as good as some of the others throughout the casino.

    Becky and I decided to checkout some of the changes at the Plaza. The poker room has been relocated and seems to have a much better feel to it. We went up to the new Dome and found it to be great. The one problem is they don’t serve any food, but you can bring food in. The reason for this is the smoking laws. The nicest change to the Plaza is the new, completely rebuilt bathrooms on the casino floor. The old bathroom was a nasty place for many years.

    The three of us went back to the Vegas Club and played various games of chance with little or no luck. Especially for Kikky, aka Becky and Coaster Kikky.
    Got a comp from Paul, the casino manager now with some kind of new title and went to the Great Moments Café. BTW, we ended up eating there four more times during our stay and found the food, service and ambiance to be pretty damn good. I have seen many more places with triple the prices and food not to par with this place. It deserves a chance.

    After dinner, we played some more games of chance and the luck just wasn’t there. Becky had to leave around eleven and she had taken a pretty bad hit and so had I. The cards seemed to have changed around midnight and I had a couple of mini runs that got me all of my loses for the day. The money management that I use can return a pretty nice pile of chips when the cards turn. It doesn’t always work though.

    Tuesday 10/9

    Bad day for me, horrible day for Jennifer as far as gambling went.
    The one bright spot to the day was the new show at the Plaza. It’s called, Viva Las Vegas. The first part of the show was OK to pretty good, but the comedian that does the last part of the show was great. Everyone was cracking up. I don’t laugh out loud too often, but this guy had me going.
    The show is at two and four in the afternoons and they have coupons for two tickets for $5. I think they have a buffet and show ticket for $12. Becky, that’s why there was a line there all day.

    Wednesday 10/10

    This turns out to be a much better day. The VP gods were looking after me. I had three, four aces and every time it was with the kicker. Also had many 2,3 & 4’s and almost every time I had the kicker. More to come on this latter.

    Went over to the Plaza to see my long time friend, Tim the bartender and to catch up on the latest gossip. They have just about closed down the bar that he was working at and is now the break bartender. He works at all the open bars and breaks the other bartenders lunch times. He told me that two of my long time full Pit-boss friends, no longer worked there. It’s a big secret in Vegas as to why the are no longer there. I did hear some rumors but I can’t say now.

    Went back to the VC where they have a little cart running around and on this cart they have one box full of keys, one box with used keys and one box full of money ($1,000). If you hit a jackpot of $200 or more you can try your luck on picking a key out of one box and try to unlock the box with the money. I hit four aces with kicker and called the cart over. Well, you guessed it, I picked a key and it opened the lock. Got $1,000 plus the $500 on the machine. They made me do a W2-G because they added them together. Gave a $40 tip and was kind of cold shouldered by one person but thanked big time by the other. Gave the wife $300 and hit the tables. Only $300? We have a formula for sharing our nice hits. The tables were very good for about an hour or so, then it hit, lost about $400 in about an hour playing on a $5 table. The wife lost about $175. That means it’s time for bed.

    OF NOTE.

    The Plaza and the Vegas Club clearly mark their VP machines that have 99% payouts. One at the Plaza has (DDB) with 6-10 payout. They are all multi-play machines and you have to sort thru them to find the good games.
    Their crap tables are $5 5X odds. That is full five times odds, it’s not 3-4-5.
     
  2. sin

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    Don, you are the luckiest bastard ever!:blowkiss: Glad you and the lovely Miss. Jennifer had a good time. We're really going to miss you two next week, but have a great cruise!
     
  3. aggie182

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    good read
     
  4. kitson

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    glad to hear of your luck, and also to know that jennifer feels well enough to be travelling again. thanks for the report!
     
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    Nice going Don. The DDB God's were with you.
     
  6. LadyNoah

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    Holy Hornets, Batman, that's some good gambling mojo! I rubbed your icon for luck:wink2:cause mine usually sucks. Great TR!
     
  7. SH0CK

    SH0CK Stylin' and Profilin' Quasi Tech Admin

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    Good read my friend! Looking forward even more to the Vegas Club part of the trip :thumbsup:
     
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    dewey089 Guru of Value

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    Excellent. Written right to readers who want details on downtown that they can use. Thanks for the information on the VP at Vegas Club and Plaza. I may have to give them a try this time after avoiding them now for quite a while.

    What was the source of you 2 for $5 ticket to the Viva Las Vegas show? Did it feel like the old Strat show?

    Congats on the big win.
     
  9. DonD

    DonD Super Moderator

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    The tickets that I had were comped, but I still had to take them to the booth and exchange them. There seemed to be plenty of the 2 fer 5 coupons around. Maybe check the club booth or better yet, if you are playing at the tables, ask for some tickets to the show. I have done this at many casinos with some success. They start giving away extra tickets when the show isn't going to be sold out.

    I didn't see the show at the Strat so I can't say. I did hear a lot of people saying they really liked it. The bartender friend of mine said, he has heard so many good comments about the show that he is going to come in on his day off. It's not a great show, but a pretty good afternoon show. I will go back to see it again. Towards the end is the best. :)

    PS Thanks for the congrats on the win. It is just SOME of the money that I have left there in the past.
     
  10. richardinbc

    richardinbc Low-Roller

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    Hey Don share your money management system. The one I use adds 20% to 25% every time I win a hand at BJ. If you get on a run it adds up pretty quick, the tuning point always seems to be when you get a double down situation and whether you win or lose on that.

    Doing that also adds some more interest to the game as I keep track how many hands in row I win during a session. I don't keep track of many hands I lose in row but I should.

    The only book I ever bought was a long time ago by Robert Scharff.
     
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    My first bet is the table minimum, if I win I double it and then 50% of each win after that. At a $5 table, when you win say ten hands in a row it is a bunch of money. When you lose ten hands in a row it is $50 lost. The killer is losing on the doubles and splits. When you're hot, you make a killing. I ALWAYS revert back to the table minimum on a lose.
    I have hit the table maximum a few times. I love to hear, sorry sir your bet is over the maximum. :banana:
    Warning, this does not always turn out good! :nono:
     
  12. sunni

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    Nice Don :thumbsup:
     
  13. hula96717

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    great information!!... thanks sooo much for the information.... i am definately keeping those tips in mind during my next trip downtown!!
     
  14. IllMarty

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    Nice TR and good info Don. Glad you and the whole fam damily had a good time.
     
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    Very nicely done.

    Yeah, for the newby, you hit a couple of times and you never think you can loose. That's how they make their money.

    It's nice to hear that you, Jennifer, and the rest of the family had a great time in Vegas; and. congrats on retrieving some of your previously left money from the casinos in Vegas.:nworthy:
     
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    Wow Don -

    I wish I would have known you were downtown the same time I was - I could have used some coaching at the BJ table! Good TR...

    Nancy
     
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    hey Don,

    where did you pick up that BJ system?? just curious. is it your own or did you learn that from somewhere?? just curious...

    i play basic blackjack strategy to a T...i just need help with money management

    VB35
     
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    My money management is a combination of two systems that I had read about. I do play more aggressively towards the end of my trip. The one thing that I see people screw up on, is when you have won several hands in a row, they back off and rake too much. Another is, they don't play good basics when the bet gets high, like staying on 16 against a 7. I did that once many years ago and the dealer said, how come you play perfect cards when you are betting small and whey your bet gets big, you play bad? That comment will stay with me the rest of my gambling life. :)
     
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    Good read Don,

    Some good info there for sure. I've never really thought "money management" too much while in Vegas. I guess I just fly by the seat of my pants, mind you I play a lot of slots so that is purely luck, IMO. I guess my "money management" style is, I take a bankroll that I know I can lose if that happens and it isn't a biggie in the big picture. (I'm not spending mortgage money or something silly like that)

    The other thing I always try to avoid is getting more money via an ATM. I think in the 21 or so trips, I might have visited an ATM twice while in Vegas.

    I look at it as entertainment value to a small extent as well.

    I always say that the next trip, I'm going to play some more at the tables and less at the slots, but each trip seems to be about the same as the last one.

    Good to hear that some positive changes have happened at the Plaza. I only made it to the El Cortez my last trip, this past Sept. I didn't even walk under the canopy. :cry:

    Next time...:thumbsup:

    Always nice to have the gambling gods smiling every now and then. At the end of the day, were you up a good pile at the end of your trip?

    RW
     
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    Ross, yes I was, this has been a very good year for me as far as gambling goes. The God of gambling has said, Don, this is your year. :) Just don't bet with Marty.
     
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