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Double-book at CET?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by DK528, Jun 27, 2012.

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  1. DK528

    DK528 Low-Roller

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    I'll be in LV for 3 nights at the end of July. Will be staying at Wynn for 3 nights and Aria for 3 using offers.

    I received a surprisingly generous offer from CET a few weeks ago that includes up to 5 nights, $300 cash (not freeplay, which I found strange) and $50 F/B credit.

    I've never double-booked rooms to take advantage of offers but I think I may do it this time -- why not get these perks? The downside I can think of is that if I don't give CET enough play, I won't receive many offers in the future. For me, that's not such a downside since I don't visit CET properties that often. In AC, I stay at Borgata and in LV, I'm partial to Wynncore and Mlife properties.

    Are there other downsides? Could I be charged for the room if I don't run that much $ through slots/tables? Would you take advantage of it if you were me?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Drambler

    Drambler High-Roller

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    I'd take advantage of it. Your future offers will dry up but if you don't mind that, I'd go for it. I once got an Aria offer for 3 free nights, $200 fp and I took it and maybe played 10 minutes there. My Aria offers are bad now, but I don't mind.

    A lot offers will have language saying you have to play up to certain levels, etc, or they'll not give you the comps but I've never heard that ever being enforced.
     
  3. stuntin909

    stuntin909 Low-Roller

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    If you're going to gamble the $300 at least do it there. Once you lose that get out of there...
     
  4. Ike

    Ike Low-Roller

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    Why even gamble the $300 there? The comp was earned based on past play. If you don't mind the CET offers disappearing for future trips, do whatever you want with the money. I suggest a hooker.
     
  5. stuntin909

    stuntin909 Low-Roller

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    Because they are giving him a free room, meal, and $300 cash. I guess I'm a little different than you but I'd consider it a little classless to just walk in and take the $$ and leave. If I was going to gamble it anyways I'd have the decency to play it where they gave it to me at least and give them the play. If he just wants the $$ for other expenses then I agree, just take it and leave. However, people doing things like this is what reduces the comps for everyone else. Pretty soon all casinos are going to have the "expected play" policy where upfront comps aren't guaranteed.

    I know morals and casinos don't really go hand in hand but that's just my point of view. Obviously he's free to do whatever he wants.
     
  6. JosieCat

    JosieCat VIP Whale

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    I'm doing the same thing in September – for the first time. I had originally intended to stay at Flamingo, but then my BF decided to come with me and he doesn't have a TR account, so we both booked offers at the Bellagio.

    Well, I really like the Flamingo so I was thinking I should double book there just for one night. When I went in to do that I looked at my offers and I had a 2 night comp with $550 in Free Play - good only in September, good only at the Flamingo. I considered it fate and booked it. With that said though, me and my BF have agreed that Bellagio and Flamingo will be the primary places we gamble at and I plan to play enough to "earn my keep" at both places. I will also be spending one night there.

    I think the only risk you have is reducing your future offers. I participate on several forums and am always reading about people who take advantage of the offers for the free play, and don't spend a dime there, and they never get charged anything.
     
  7. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Actually, this is more of a book offer without playing question. Separate from "double booking".

    So, if you take them up on an offer and do not play, you will not get charged anything. Future offers will take a hit, not so much because you scammed them, but because your average daily play just took a big hit.

    This may also impact any comp rooms in A/C if you need them at some point.
     
  8. Nevyn

    Nevyn VIP Whale

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    I'm with Ike. If you're gonna stiff 'em, might as well stiff 'em completely and use that money where it'll do some good.

    These offers have nothing to do with class. You weren't offered the deal out of friendship or class or manners. You got the offer because they think you are a sucker, and they want you to be their sucker, not someone else's, Take whatever you can.

    As for "they'll stop giving offers to everyone", I wouldn't worry about that. First, not everyone will do it, so its moot. Second, the casinos still have to compete for those who will not freeload. And not only do play conditional offers make for poor competition for players, but then you get a lot of hidden cost in the people and processes that have to track whether thresholds were met, handle complaints, etc.
     
  9. Ike

    Ike Low-Roller

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    You're confused about how casino marketing works. Unless you're a mid/high roller or a whale with verifiable history, the first time you go to a casino and win/lose money, you generally get nothing. Your play then generates future offers based on past play. The casinos will try every trick in the book to get you to play up from that past level, but the fact remains any offers you received were "earned" based on historical play. You are doing nothing immoral by "no playing" an offer, you are simply guaranteeing you won't receive future offers based on your visit.
     
  10. stuntin909

    stuntin909 Low-Roller

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    I get what you guys are saying. I'm just saying if you're going to gamble that elsewhere might as well do it there to give them the play. That's it. If you want the cash for other expenses then it's obviously dumb to play it.
     
  11. Carol1113

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    CET sent out a lot of very good offers good through Sept. It seems like most went to people that had not been there in awhile as both my husband and a girl friend got up to 5 nights free-$500 in cash and $100 food credit--but I did not.
    Neither one of them had been to Vegas in at least 3 years--and I had.
    The one thing I would mention is they had to be booked with a certain code which means you were also booking the room for at least a few nights and you will need to check-in.
    I really don't feel it is right not to give them some play with what they are offering--in other words split a day between the hotels as you don't need to bring all your luggage with you--maybe just a small bag and enjoy both hotels and this way you don't completely stiff CET as you never know when you may need them
     
  12. DK528

    DK528 Low-Roller

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    Thanks all for the thoughts.

    I should clarify -- I'd probably use that $300 at whatever casino I'd stay at and see if I could turn it into more $. But I don't think I'd spend more than that. I was thinking of Paris and using the $50 F/B credit at the new Gordon Ramsay restaurant.

    As for it not being right, I've certainly lost more than $300 at CET casinos in AC, maybe not much more than that but probably double that amount. I doubt the casino felt badly about me losing that amount. Why should I feel guilty about taking advantage of an offer they make me?
     
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