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Does anybody wish that Fremont street never added the canopy?

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels & Casinos' started by Heisenberg, Apr 10, 2016.

  1. Heisenberg

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    Looking at photos of the way Fremont street used to look pre fse, I wish it still looked the same. I agree with shutting the street off to traffic. The light show seems rather outdated. I never got to see Fremont before fse. Is it better now or back in the day? Not crime or feeling safe...strictly the look and vibe of downtown.
     
  2. BayouBengal

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    I am impartial to the canopy but the Slotzilla totally killed the cool view of being able to see all the down from The Plaza.
     
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    I like the canopy. provides shade on a hot day. dont really care about the overhead show but its ok.
     
  4. MikeOPensacola

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    +1. I like the canopy and think it's a plus. The quasi mall-like atmosphere, especially at night, appeals to me. Totally agree with BayouBengal about Slotzilla; the view to and from The Plaza was once iconic; now it's beneath mediocre.

    Fremont St. in the 80s was much seedier than it s now. Sure, there are a lot of panhandlers at FSE now, but there were just as many back then and they were not nearly as benign as today's buskers and costume characters. The addition of the music stages has had a huge positive impact, IMHO, on the FSE scene and I don't think that would have ever happened without the canopy. :peace::beer:
     
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  5. NYNYGirl

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    Are the ones who dress in "costumes " like those at Time Square in NYC, if so ewww...
     
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    I like the canopy. Like NYNYGirl, I agree that there are some unsavory characters just trying to make a quick buck but all in all, Fremont street is lots of fun and something I try to do every trip.


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  7. Electroguy563

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    The Canopy is o.k. I just wish I can enjoy what's happening without some fucker coming up and asking me for money. It just kills the vibe.
     
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  8. MikeOPensacola

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    One thing that works very well for me is I never, ever make eye contact with any of these people. I'll tip some enterprising performance artist if he has a good and interesting little schtick that's worth actually watching for a few minutes. I don't view the whole deal as an us against them type of thing. If someone has a good act and they aren't belligerent in asking for tips I'll gladly throw in a few bucks. If I see the DiNero guy I always give him a $20 to get some pics with both of us. He's a really nice guy and funny as hell. But as far as the straight out beggars I never make eye contact with them and have never even been approached by one. Same thing with hookers in casinos and on the strip; I never make eye contact with them and I keep my wallet in my front pocket with my hand in my pocket. IMO pick pockets are a far more clear and present danger than beggars.

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  9. LoveDowntownVegas

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    I too love the look of downtown without the canopy. Obviously slotzilla has killed any views of the area, but I digress.
    the thing about the canopy though - without it, downtown might have been a ghosttown. the idea behind the FSE was to draw people away from the strip and back to downtown, and it helped. The collaborative effort of those casinos revitalized downtown. When I took a group of first timers to FSE in August, they were amazed by the canopy. I think it's all about perspective - if you haven't seen it, or only seen it a couple of times, it's worth a view or two.
     
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    Downtown was a dirty, God-forsaken place in the years before the canopy. One can certainly argue it could've been "cleaned-up" in a variety of different ways, but I don't think "leaving it alone" was a viable option.
     
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  11. martinr

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    I see it as sad during the daytime. The canopy does help shade the street, as one person mentioned. But how much time would you be outside in the sun anyway since we're only talking about two blocks. Just seems like an outdated concept technologically that needs some sort of improvement. Compare the Linq/High Roller open air promenade. It has a feel that has been created to feel welcoming and fun without people whizzing overhead and without a tired audio visual 2005ish presentation.

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  12. Ace-n-Lucille

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    Does anyone else remember reading the story of how the canopy could instead have been a full-size starship Enterprise replica? (I may have even read it here but can't find mention of it on a search.) If memory serves, the story said that the Downtown revitalization plans came down to the Star Trek thing and the canopy, they even voted on going with the Enterprise replica, but at the last minute the head of the motion picture studio that owned the Star Trek rights wouldn't sign off on the deal - and so Downtown went with the canopy instead. (I thought it a fascinating story, even if not true.)

    I think it's wonderful how they've cleaned up and made Fremont Street a viable tourism spot, but oh, wouldn't a full-size Enterprise replica be so very cool?!!
     
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    Don't like the canopy, the lightshow is lame. I do like that they closed off the street to traffic.
     
  14. marksind

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    Canopy = great shade and pedestrian plaza. As some others have said, Slotzilla is bad. When they proposed it I thought it would be great to get rid of the scaffolding that comprised the old zipline towers. But it has killed the great view of East Fremont and all its neon signs as well as the Plaza at the other end.
     
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    I went to Fremont Street before the canopy and it was a little scary. We drove down Fremont Street and then Dan parked and asked if I wanted to get out and walk and I said "Um.. not really." Now it's one of my favorite places in Vegas to hang out. Slotzilla makes it feel more claustrophobic, but still love going down there at least one night for the people watching, cheap booze and low-roller gaming.

    It may be getting a bit dated, but I still love the light shows. I like to watch the people watching the show. There is always some weirdo singing along... oh wait, that's me. :)
     
  16. dukeofdarby

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    canopy and closing the street to traffic was a great improvement to the downtown area which was on a downhill slide-----that slotzilla and zipline towers are
    big negatives cuting out what was once a great view from either main st or las vegas blvd,hopefully casino owners and city planners will get together and remove them----
     
  17. eaglejohn

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    Doubt zipline will be going away. Makes too much money at $20-$40 a shot. Does FSE own it, or is it private? I am sure much of the profits are used for the FSE upkeep
     
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    Downtown lover here. I am happy I experienced Downtown before FSE. Yes, it was seedy. I remember the first time (early 90's) my sister and I decided to stay exclusively downtown. Up to that point, we stayed on the strip and spent the days downtown. When we told folks we were actually going to stay downtown, folks were aghast at the thought of two women staying downtown at night. Omg....Tammy and I brought mace with us and had it in our hands when walking outside in the evening. The image still makes me lol. Also, before FSE, the gambling rules and limits were so much different....in a good way.

    That being said, I do like the canopy. I could do without the light show. I enjoy the bands and people watching. The slotzilla is a horrible eyesore and takes up too much space.
     
  19. hawki39

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    When we were there last April, staying at the Four Queens, we were never hassled directly for money...We saw all the hucksters and the good looking, and not so good looking costumed girls etc. Nobody ever asked us for money. We like Downtown for the ease of walking and the closeness of the casinos. I hope we have the same experience in a month when we go back in May.
     
  20. 63hearts

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    I'm good with the canopy and even the light show, but they need refreshing big time, you shouldn't be an annual tripper and see the same show four years in a row. If it weren't for my rfb downtown I was actually considering the strip this trip, if it weren't for a concert I wanna see on fse while completely hammered I would be on strip this time. Love the daytime shade though, sometimes I've even asked myself are they pumping the ac out here because its noticeably cooler than ten yards away in the sun