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Video Poker Do you hate the VP Hiccup?

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by WHIVGOYTUBE, Nov 23, 2013.

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  1. WHIVGOYTUBE

    WHIVGOYTUBE MIA

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    When I am playing on a SINGLE LINE VP machine, and it does not seem to matter how new or old the machine is, it will sometimes "Hiccup" (an unexpected pause), when dealing in a brand new hand.

    Everytime it happens, I think, opps, there were some good cards on that round and the machine has to dump it :hmmm: and try again. I know it is stupid, but for the life of me, I cannot explain why they sometimes .. pause .. for no reason.

    Given the processor power and speeds of today and recent years, and lets face it, the graphic are about the same as they have always been, why on earth would the machine ever have to pause because the processor cannot keep up?
     
  2. dvandentop

    dvandentop VIP Whale

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    You mean when it goes back to main game screen?
     
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    ABQJeff Low-Roller

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    A lot of the older VP games (IGT I-Games) have lags. The platform is still very popular, and the casino's see no reason to replace them because of that.
    I feel the same way about the lags. Always feel that there's a good hand coming because of it. Just don't let it impact your play, and it just adds another thrilling wrinkle to your experience. :)
     
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    Don't think so. OP is talking about when you are done with a hand, you press the deal button, the cards are dealt face down..............................then about a second or 2 OR 3, later, they flip over.

    I always think it's a premium hand being dealt and the CPU must check to see if it's ok to pay it out according to the average payback % of that given machine.

    But then after what seems like a minute, the cards flip over and it is a trash hand anyways. :cry:
     
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    Some regular type video slots have occasional lags too.
     
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    I hate that! Lol. Seriously, I'm always like wth, and keep pressing buttons. And I always think, yep, THAT would have been the winning hand/spin!

    :beer::beer:
     
  7. Royal Flusher

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    I think this is when the software tries to talk to any progressive link that might be attached to the machine.

    It takes a few seconds to time out.
     
  8. Breeze147

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    I think it's because the circuits are starting to fry.

    VP machines are rigged to make you believe that if you had done this or that, you would have had a big hit. It's like the lottery. It can't be just fate that you are just one number or so from winning, for example, play a 16 and 17 comes up. I tried to outfox it by playing all of my numbers one off and they came out one off in the other direction.
     
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    I was told that it happens every 100 hands. The machines are programmed to do an integrity software check.
     
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    Interesting possibility.

    People might think machines are doing it when a player is winning, but I think we just notice it more then.
     
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    Exactly how I always feel!
     
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    Nothing good ever happens when it happens, for me anyway.
     
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    I've noticed that as well and the paranoid skeptic side of me that comes out when I gamble swears it's the machine deciding its time to really screw me over. :grrr:
     
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    That's pretty close to the accurate truth..
    What that "lag" is, is the machine "reseeding" its RNG. (as explained by a programmer from IGT: "The RNG runs off of a time-clock, every 100 hands, it checks the RNG against it and picks a new set of numbers. This is to ensure the utmost randomness.")
     
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    I like the conspiracy thing more . . . :evillaugh
     
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    When it happens (when I play single-line) I call out "shuffling!" (like Marty from Vegas Vacation, lol)
     
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    As a former IBM'er in the 90's, this is not even close to the truth.

    In the early 90's, I was in part of the quality engineering dept that certified what the Design team said was true..

    Back then, it was amazing that we could do....

    1 MB per second. And by 1MB, it is not what is measured today in bits. It was in true 8 bit words MB.

    So take anything you got today, and divide by 8 = real speed.

    Anyways....

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    With the internal net speeds, there is no way you can see a DELAY of gaming speeds when they need to cashe memory to the Server.

    With 4 quad processors, (super cheap today), one processor is doing the network data uplink, while the other three are do whatever.

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    And even if it took 3 of the 4 processors to do the uplink every 100 hands, you would never know.

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    It is too fast.

    So I have to still ask, why does it still hiccup? :rolleyes2:

    One Quad of the processor can do EVERTHING for the uplink to BIG Brother, and you will never see it.

    The 2nd Quad of the Processor must be dedicated to the Graphics.

    The 3rd quad of the processor must be on the game itself... dealing of the cards, and payouts..

    The 4th quad of the processor must be on overal observation of the total VP games, and it's operations/faults.

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    So, everything is taken care of, BEHIND THE SEENS... You never see it!!!!!!

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    BUT WAIT, even before these QUAD PROCESSORS of today, and BEFORE THE internal link of yesteryear..

    The OLD, Single processor VP games, un linked machines, just like the new versions of today... Hiccup..

    WHY?

    So I have to ask.......

    WHy the Hiccup? For it happen yesteryear, and it still happen on the SINGLE LINE VP game of today!
     
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  18. Kickin

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    In addition to the technical reasons the previous poster gave for why this is BS there is a big security flaw by doing something like this. Just think about it. It adds an element of predictability through a variable completely controlled by the user, that someone could potentially exploit, if you know that after 100 hands the RNG reseeds itself off the time clock.
     
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    Also, "upmost randomness".
     
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    Sorry, just going with what he told me.
     
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