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Do you ever keep track of what you tip dealers?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by Kickin, Mar 11, 2013.

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  1. Kickin

    Kickin Flea

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    I don't want to get into a thing about whether or not to tip dealers or anything like that. But I'm curious if any of you table players keep accurate track of how much you tip dealers? Maybe per hour, per day, per trip...whatever.

    After you kept track did realize you were tipping much more or less than you previously estimated? Did it make you change how much or how often you tip?
     
  2. natedog666

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    They actually tell me at the end of the trip, because it counts against me for discount purposes...the tips count as "wins".

    It always amazes me what the number is, could be 3-4k or so for a shoe at baccarat. But I then realize that it is because I bet the longshot pair pair ties for them for $25 each. So for my $75 outlay, when it hits, they get either $275+$25 = 300 for the pair, or $200+$25=225 for the tie, or sometimes more than 1. You run into a shoe with a lot of those and they get paid a lot. Mind you I don't bet every single hand for them, but I do when I bet for me.

    For craps, it would be a quarter on the yo coming out, quarters on all the features. So if they hit a yo, it is $375+$25=$400. If they hit a feature, it is could be a lot more. Lately I have been rethinking whether I'm tipping too much...you don't notice it until you see the final number at the end of the trip, and it can run into 20-30k for a long trip at each casino....but it is good karma and I always get good service...
     
  3. Nevyn

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    I don't track it. But generally speaking I tip based on time and entertainment value (not winning and losing as much), so it would be pretty easy to guesstimate based on how long I played.
     
  4. Joe

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    I just figure about $200-$300 went towards tips. I mostly play $1 VP.

    I have some rough numbers...$40 RT for the limo, probably about $10-$15 each time we eat at the 777. $6 for the buffet. I begin to lose track when we go out for nicer meals at the Redwood & Second St. I always tip what I consider generously when our meals are comped. Share our good fortune.

    Also, when we used to be able to use the 4oak scratch cards as bartender tips, I had a better idea of how much went towards VP. Now its just keep stuffing the tip glass with no idea how much goes in there in a typical trip. I probably don't want to know because each tip represents another drink.:beer:

    Plus, if you hit a hand pay, there goes more money.
     
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  5. JDinTN

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    I always tell myself I will keep track of dealer tips but then I never do. I can try to estimate but because dealer tips go out so often my estimate can be far off the mark. Personally I would like to know because it is probably more than I estimate and I dont see any reason I should be extra generous to dealers with my own money.
     
  6. Ezzy711

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    I try not to track it. I don't want to think how much more money I could have had if I had not been so generous. Having been in hospitality I tend to tip more than average.

    For CW, bellhops, drivers, restaurants, etc. I actually keep a separate fund that I build up during the year. I don't like to mix my gambing stake with my tip cash. I save up all my dollar and 5 dollar bills for the few months before I leave. I usually end up with enough to take care of everyone without dipping into my real fun money. I sometimes take the time to fold a my ones in sets of $2 in one zippered case just for CW. Saves time fumbling for tip when she shows up.

    When at a table I always get a specific amount in a smaller denomination specifically for tipping. For example, If I'm at a BJ table and want to buy in at $200 I'll give them $220 and use the $20 toward tips. I put that in a separate pile. If I have a bad streak and don't use it all I usually give them what's left when I am ready to cash in - either that or whatever is left after color up. I may tip more than that, but I start out with that amt.
     
  7. LA2VegasTrekkers

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    I go to the bank before our trip and get $100 in $2 bills. This more than covers our CW tips for the whole trip (3 days) usually and the CWs love the $2s. Most think they're lucky and it also makes you memorable. We've had CEs twll us that they've heard of us from other CWs because of them. My husband and I always sit together, so the CW gets a $2 every time she comes by.
     
  8. numeno

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    I would guess 90% of the time I'm not tracking it. The other times are usually situations where I knew the dealer from a previous night/trip and I knew I was going to want to tip them. When I buyin I will set aside some amount. Something like 5% of my buying($10 for 200 or $25 for $500). I'll get change for that and that will be what I tip.


    There is zero chance I'm keeping track of tips when playing craps.
     
  9. earth-3

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    I'll give $5 on the first tip to the CW and $2 for every drink there after. I'll bet $5 on all the hard ways, for the crew, through out a session at crapps. When I color up or go out, I'll leave at least a green for each one of them. For the BJ dealers, I'll ask if they want me to play their tip or not. When playing their tip, I'll put one in play eveytime I substantially increase my bet for good karma. If they rather have it in hand, I'll tip after a win on a larger bet. Again, I'll leave a green and any small chips after I color up, regardless. A single session is usually 1+ hours for craps and 2+ hours for BJ, about twice a day. What this adds up too, I don't think I want, nor care; to know.
     
  10. jblank

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    I usually have a rough idea in the back of my mind - I probably tip more then I should, but I know if I feel like I tipped alot, I probably won some money

    It also just depends on how the dealer is, nice, friendly dealers tend to get more, while silent, stone faced dealers probably get less

    I try not to dwell on it alot, as its just good karma and (hopefully) entertaining
     
  11. mike_m235

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    I don't keep track, but one time in the HL room at the Monte Carlo they didn't have a box so the dealer was just stacking her tips (the pit boss was right there watching, so it wasn't shady.)

    I was playing $100-$150 a hand and tipping a red every couple hands. And I don't know what it was, but every hand I tipped I seemed to win that day. I was alone at the table and the game was going fast, and after two hours she had over $300, which is definitely way more than I intended to tip, but I was on a roll and finished up a grand, so what are you going to do?

    Normally when I'm playing blackjack I shoot for $40 an hour in bets for the dealer. I just change two green chips for reds and leave it there on the side to bet for the dealer. The other $10 is for the CW. She might get more if I drink more than 2 drinks an hour.
     
  12. Big Tip

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    No, which is unusual for me. I say unusual because I track my gambling loses and wins closely. But I rationalize that tipping, both the dealers and the cocktailers, is just a "cost of doing business" for me and is part of the gambling.
     
  13. numeno

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    Same here. Even the rare times I keep track, I'm counting it as gambling. I don't have a separate tip budget.
     
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    I tip $5 every hand or every other hand in blackjack. When i play 2 hands, I let the dealer choose which hand that I bet for them on. I tip usually $10 to the CW's, sometimes $25, depending on how i feel. Craps I will usually tip $5 on all the hardways for the dealers. I dont keep up with it as I am having fun. I like to get loud and have fun and want the dealers to enjoy their time too. They can put up with a lot more shit if you are tipping them like crazy. I am never mean or obnoxious but I do like to talk and yell and throw out he occasional F-bomb. So many cheap people dont tip or barely tip I figure I can make up for them!
     
  15. Kickin

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    This is what I was thinking would be the case for people and is why I asked. With everyone else you tip its easy to remember how much you gave, at least approximately. But because of the frequency and twisted nature of money at the tables I figured my estimates of what I tipped could be way off. And they were. During one session on my last trip I was inadvertently able to tell exactly what I tipped (for unimportant reasons) and it was about double what I usually estimated I gave. It worked out to about 100/hr so if I keep that pace all the time it would mean somewhere around 2k to the dealers per trip. Way too much in my opinion. So I was curious if others had the hard numbers to compare to their estimates as well.

    Holy crap! On almost every hand? That's like anywhere from $250-$500 per hour out of pocket just in tips to the dealers. Which would work out to about 10k in tips for a normal one of my trips of about 20 hours of play. 10k in tips is pretty baller! How much do you bet? That seems like a big hurdle to a winning trip unless you're betting over 1k/hand.
     
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    It depends. This last trip, One 2 hour session at The Plaza I was rated at $450(i played 2 hands at $225). The rest of the trip I think they rated me at $150 to $275 per hand per session depending on how i was doing. Sometimes I dont bet that much sometimes more.
     
  17. Bane

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    You are much more generous than most premium players at your level.

    In fact several posters on this thread are more generous than many of the much larger players.

    Dealers are regularly trained in the art of the soft hustle. Its something they discuss daily.

    If another dealer is not pulling his or her weight in tokes they will hear about from several coworkers.

    To the original question, I have received fairly accurate figures of my dealer tips after each trip and it is always much more than I expected and much more than dealers deserve.

    It does not make any real difference in the service you receive.

    Many dealers are heavy gamblers themselves at the local casinos.
     
  18. shifter

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    Yeah i tracked it a couple of times and that did make me change how I tip. I used to feel bad about only tipping 25 to 100 a hand when I'm being thousands a hand for myself. Then I realized that even at that level I was tipping tens of thousands every trip and that was plenty.
     
  19. Kickin

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    Wow bro. I know it's your money and whatever you're doing you seem to be having a good time. But just think about how much that adds up to over several trips. You're very generous so hopefully lots of good karma your way.

    I do understand what you mean about the 25 to 100 feeling small when you're betting thousands. Mine are red chip tips for black chip play and its the same feeling sometimes. But at the end of the day I still end up tipping dealers much more than other service providers whose service I actually value much more. Dealers are basically just pulling cards out of a shoe. That's what I mean about the twisted nature of money at the tables.
     
  20. DonnyC

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    Sometimes I tip...other times not.

    I as a service tipper...I tip for good service.

    I am a $5-$10 BJ player so the tips are small but if I am having a good time (win or loose) I will tip $5 here and there. But in all honesty, it's under $50 and hour.

    Casino waitress get $5 off the hop and minimum $1 per drink after that, on every drink. (Play with my brother so when they bring 2 drinks - 1 each it is $2).

    I let them know that if they keep me fueled I will keep tipping them. I let them determine whether or not my tip is big enough to to keep me -unthirsty...I have never had bad service. The hard part at times is getting service at the slots - but once I tell them the score, they take care of me.

    We were playing 1 night (2 years ago) and went back the next night and the same cocktail waitress was there. She didn't even ask us what we wanted...she knew.
     
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