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Video Poker Dealt Royals

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by Cbart, Sep 5, 2016.

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  1. SnivesM

    SnivesM Tourist

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    Dealt Sequential, Progressive RF on NYE at Wynn 10:58PM...

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  2. Chump

    Chump Low-Roller

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    Snives,

    Very nice hit, good for you. Does anyone find sequential machines out there anymore? We have about a dozen real sequential machines at our HR and I personally know of six people who hit for the 50,000 credits. I’m sure there must be more that I don’t know about. I saw very few on the Strip over the years.
     
  3. wanker751

    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

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    Fremont downtown has em for sure. Near the blackjack tables.
     
  4. Royal Flusher

    Royal Flusher Savvy Gambler

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    Cal has 'em, near the casino doors nearest the train cars and Plaza - the south west corner. I think its $25,000 for the sequential royal.
     
  5. DDB

    DDB Low-Roller

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    Except for Dream Card, I have never had a dealt royal. All told, I have hit 15-18 royals.
     
  6. progrocker2112

    progrocker2112 Watch out for this guy

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    12 royals, 2-11 were all dealt (albeit at the same time on 10 play). Those are some nice hits on progressive dollars, I actually almost cannot believe one of them got up to 7K+ before hitting.
     
  7. VideoPokerNerd

    VideoPokerNerd Low-Roller

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    Unfortunately, I'm STILL a "royal flush virgin". :( Have not had one dealt to me or gotten one on the draw. Hopefully this October that will change. I have had three dealt straight flushes. They weren't royals but it was still lovely to see those on the initial deal.
     
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  8. Cbart

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    Nice Dealt Sequential. Who says $5 doesn't buy anything anymore?
    VP Nerd it will happen. One trip @ the Palms my friend was with me that only puts in a $20 @ the bar so he can get his $7.50 Becks without paying for them. He hits the deal every 5 minutes or so. He taps me on the shoulder and says look at this. Held two and drew the Royal. Guy probably played less than 200 hands in 3 days. Maybe I'm the one doing it wrong?
     
  9. grosx2

    grosx2 Have fun storming the castle!

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    Throughout video poker history, I wonder how many people have gotten a dealt royal on the very first hand they ever played....a hell of a lot more than 650k people have sat down at a VP machine at some point in their life, so you know it's happened before...
     
  10. Vegas28m

    Vegas28m Medium Roller, Chicago

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    My friend was dealt a royal flush on a 10 play video poker.
     
  11. FullPay

    FullPay When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

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    I always tell the machine that it could just deal it to me, but it never does. Nine royals drawn since 1996, more on three than four. By the odds I am halfway to being dealt one. Sweet!
     
  12. Dean Martin

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    I wish I would have kept count over the years (nearly 26 years of Vegas trips now) because I've had numerous RF's but I do remember that 2 of them were dealt. We just got back from the Wynn and they have a bank of 8 new machines at Encore that have a list of game variations you can choose from and one of them is the "dealt RF". We were playing BP and most all the BP at Wynn is 7/5 and this game was the same except it paid 10,000 credit for a dealt RF, still 4000 for a reg RF. I played it quite a bit but no dealt RF.
     
  13. Grant1982

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    It happens...last year i was dealt a royal, next trip 4 days later and was dealt another royal. Couldn't believe it!
     
  14. Aces and Eights

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    I wonder how many people discard all five cards to get dealt a royal on the draw.
     
  15. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    The odds of getting a royal with 5 less cards in the deck are much better (assuming none of the discarded cards were 10,J,Q, Q, A)
     
  16. tringlomane

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    This is true but the act of discarding all 5 cards first is pretty rare. Whereas you're always dealt 5 cards. For a single line player, a redraw royal is pushing a "once in a lifetime" event.

    I've seen the rough math on it before, and I think it's about every 1 in 14 million hands for non-wild games and about 1 in 5.5 million hands for deuces wild.

    The next most rare event in 9/6 JoB (other non-wild games will have similar odds) is a royal from just holding one card. That's about 1 in 1.18 million. I was not too happy when I saw that happen to my neighbor at TAG last trip about 10 minutes after I moved from that machine. [emoji35]

    Here is what the Wizard says the expected percentage breakdown of royals by number of cards held for single line is as follows.

    5 (dealt)...6.22%
    4...30.59%
    3...39.52%
    2...19.62%
    1...3.41%
    0 (redraw)...0.289%

    Roughly 70% of your royals should be from holding either 3 or 4 cards. I'm 5 of 7 in that department, so I'm as close as possible there.
     
  17. Sonya

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    I have only had one Royal in a casino and it was after I held 3 cards.

    At Bally's I had held 4 to the Royal and the machine "unheld" one of the cards when I pressed the draw button. A non-winning card came up as the next card, but I complained pretty loudly to my friends about the machine dropping the held card. An employee nearby said that I shouldn't worry because "most Royals are dealt". I didn't believe him that "most" applies, but it did make me think of this thread.
     
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    There are three different odds. The first is before the draw where you have to get all junk cards to throw away including hands with one 10. The second is after the deal where you already know you have junk cards and don't have a 10. The third is after the deal and you have a 10 as one of your five discards (I'm thinking that the third case is three-fourths the probability of the second case). Having more than one ten or having a higher value card isn't a condition since the proper play would be to keep those cards which means you wouldn't be drawing five cards. My original question was the first case which makes the calculations a lot more difficult since there are conditions that apply to your first five cards.
     
  19. Aces and Eights

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    OK, I've thought about it again. The case where you draw five cards to a royal should happen less frequently than getting it on the deal, and here is my reasoning.

    To get it on the deal, the royal has to be the first five cards. To get it on the draw, the royal has to be the second five cards. Both have an equal chance of happening.
    But the latter has conditions on getting the royal depending on your first five cards. As I mentioned in the last thread, the first five cards also have to be junk cards. This doesn't happen often. The odds of getting the five card draw royal is the odds of getting the royal multiplied by the odds of getting a deal which requires you to draw five cards.
     
  20. tringlomane

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    If you are already throwing away all five cards, then getting a royal on the redraw is easier than a dealt royal. It's 4 in (47*46*45*44*43)/(5*4*3*2*1) = 1 in 383,475.75 if you don't throw away a Ten or 3 in (47*46*45*44*43)/(5*4*3*2*1) = 1 in 511,313 if you throw away a Ten.

    The actual redraw royal probability after being dealt garbage is inbetween the two numbers above since you sometimes throw a ten and sometimes you don't. It's about 1 in 454,000. Probability of a dealt royal is 4 in (52*51*50*49*48)/(5*4*3*2*1) or 1 in 649,740.

    But being dealt garbage in 9/6 Jacks or better is only a 1 in 30.8 occurrence. These two events (being dealt garbage and redrawing the royal after being dealt garbage) combined together lead to the overall probability of a redraw royal occurring which is 1 in 30.8 x 454,000 which is about 1 in 14 million hands. The Wizard of Odds says its 1 in 13,971,290.
     
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