so at the hollywood columbus casino, they have a bank of ddb machines that are progressive that pay 7/5. right behind them there is another bank of machines, no progressive, that pay 8/6. how much would the progressive need to be to warrant playing the machines with a lower paytable? most of the time, it seems the progressive is somewhere around $1060 or so but i've seen it in the $1300's a few times too. fire away todd

7/5 DDB with a $1300 Royal is 96.3% return 8/6 DDB is 97.8% You would need about a $2000 Royal to make it equal. I used the calculator at Wizard of Odds. http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/

I'm figuring a $1750 progressive royal on the 7/5 game makes them an even game assuming standard strategy. I took 40,000 hands as the mean hands to get a royal. Multiplied that times bet per hand of $1.25 to come up with total investment of $50,000. Playing 40,000 hands at the 7/5 game gives an expected loss of $50000 x (1-0.963) = $1850. The 8/6 game gives has an expected loss of $50000 x (1-0.978) = $1100. Since you would lose $750 more playing the 7/5 game over 40,000 hands, you need an extra $750 to make it even. At a certain progressive bonus level, the strategy would change to go for more royals. I'll leave that to Wizard to figure out.

You sure it's 8/6? DDB rarely is available in 8/6. I'm not even sure I've ever seen it before. A general rule of thumb for quarter royal progressives, about every $500 (2000 credits) added to the royal adds about 1.1% to the return which is a similar return boost as upping either the full house or flush payout one unit. Of course keep in mind playing the machine with the higher royal is a lot more swingy. Yeah at the $1500 level, you're tossing KK-JJ for 3 to a royal in optimal strategy. This ups the probability of hitting a Royal closer to 1 in 35k.

Thought it was 8/6 but maybe it's 8/5, will have to double double check next time I'm there (see what I did there)