1. Welcome to VegasMessageBoard
    It appears you are visiting our community as a guest.
    In order to view full-size images, participate in discussions, vote in polls, etc, you will need to Log in or Register.

Table Games Cromwell table games & limits

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by DonnyC, Apr 20, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. DonnyC

    DonnyC VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,137
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    8
    Just hoping that people can contribute to what the my have seen as far a what games are offered and what what the table limits are?

    Thanks
     
  2. raisingoo

    raisingoo Low-Roller

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    346
    Location:
    Rochester, NY
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    20
  3. WHIVGOYTUBE

    WHIVGOYTUBE MIA

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2013
    Messages:
    531
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    4
    We are CET People.

    But, we are VP/Slot/$5 3CP people.

    Since this is a CET property, We know this is their upscale property.

    All CET's are VP poor, and the game we play is Bonus Poker (CET = 6/5).

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    It will be a nice new CET place to play VP... Maybe....

    Depending on the vibe... Anyone one else have thoughts on this place for VP Vibe?
     
  4. DonnyC

    DonnyC VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,137
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    8
    I'd play $5 3 card if it's available
     
  5. kps

    kps High-Roller

    Joined:
    May 2, 2013
    Messages:
    782
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    22
    Will report in when I get there Thursday. Anything specific as I am a lowwwwwwwwww roller?
     
  6. Darreningreenwood

    Darreningreenwood Low-Roller

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2013
    Messages:
    284
    Location:
    Indiana
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    18
    I think what DonnyC is looking for are the actual games/limits/rules that can be found at the Cromwell, not guesses based upon assumptions/other properties/distaste of CET/etc.

    For some games, that's simply the minimums that can be found (like 3 Card); others will be a bit more involved (like if ALL BJ is really 3:2, minimums, # decks, etc).

    If you are able to swing by there and see what's available, report back!
     
  7. WrongWayWade

    WrongWayWade VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2010
    Messages:
    1,116
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    27
    Remember, they have only announced a 'soft opening' for late April / May. This place might not be open to the general public at all, yet. Just to people that are staying there. Certainly possible.
     
  8. DonnyC

    DonnyC VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,137
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    8
    Yes!

    I think that there will probably be a lot of threads about their gaming and figured maybe we could have only one thread that talks about their games and table limits so that we can all know and find it easily.
     
  9. flamingogo

    flamingogo Tourist

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    91
    Location:
    NYC
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    11
  10. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    9,887
    Location:
    Missouri
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    15
    Did you think all of Cromwell would be 3:2 S17 like the other felt? :evillaugh What's even more annoying to me is that CET puts that crappy 13% edge bet "21+3 Extreme" on all those 6:5 tables too.
     
  11. flamingogo

    flamingogo Tourist

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    91
    Location:
    NYC
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    11
    Of course not. I was hoping for 3:2 H17. And the side bets only bother me because they slow down the game tremendously.
     
  12. hail2skins

    hail2skins Low-Roller

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2011
    Messages:
    290
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    30
  13. ams722

    ams722 Side Bet Shunner

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,412
    Location:
    Pergatory
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    15
    Their dealers are dressed exactly like Cosmo's dealers.

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
     
  14. vegasvic

    vegasvic VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2013
    Messages:
    2,526
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    45
    I doubt $5 craps will last but I'll take it for now.
     
  15. WrongWayWade

    WrongWayWade VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2010
    Messages:
    1,116
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    27
    As to the Cromwell: BLACKJACK PREDICTION: it will look just like Flamingo and the rest of CET. Mostly 8-deck, H17. If the limit is $10 you get 6:5. If the limit is $15 or higher you get 3:2. And perhaps some 2-decks, NDAS, H17 for $25.

    ******
    The 21+3 Extreme sidebet is extremely lame; it's not that different from the Pair Plus paytable at 3CP, but you DON'T GET PAID ON A PAIR. It's like playing regular VP and Jacks or better pays nothing. And 13.x% is right. What a rip.

    It's not too bad for speed as it doesn't get paid off that often, but the dealer does have to spend time every hand collecting the losing bets. Lucky Ladies is my favorite but I see it pretty rarely anymore (Gold Coast, maybe?), because just by doing your regular Hi-Lo count you can hit the right point to bet that thing with an advantage.

    I wish someone would trot out Over/Under 13 again. You can make a killing on that with a special count, especially with 2-decks.

    The worst one I've seen for the slowness factor was some abortion called 'In-Between' that I've seen in Pennsylvania and Biloxi where the dealer's upcard needs to be between your first two cards. This dealer had to stop and read it off the felt and figure it out EVERY TIME.... "Let's see, your cards are 3 apart, so that's a spread 2, so that's 6:1...." I swear the dealer never could memorize any of the payoffs the entire session.
     
  16. flamingogo

    flamingogo Tourist

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    91
    Location:
    NYC
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    11
    Ugh, I played on that 'in between' table in PA once; it was brutal. I left after one shoe.

    I've seen lucky ladies at a few places, but can't remember where. I've never played it though, because besides not knowing the correct count to bet it, I felt that it would be a complete giveaway as to what I was doing. Like, only playing it when I have a big bet out? Red flag, I'd think.

    You're right that some side bets slow the games down more than others, but it's not just the payouts that eats time. It's also the constant changing of chips into smaller denominations for the side bet, then deciding how much to bet on it, then paying out the winnings (if any), and collecting the losing bets. Also, any decent win would always warrant a call to the floor supervisor, so that would tack on an extra few minutes.

    Is Flamingo $10 all 6:5 now? Dang. I used to play there only a couple of years ago and I found $10 3:2, even in Margaritaville. I'll check it out when I'm there next week. The cocktail waitresses were hawt.
     
  17. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    9,887
    Location:
    Missouri
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    15
    That exists at my closest casino: Ameristar St. Charles

    I guess the top grossing casino in Missouri can't do everything right. :evillaugh

    The side bet itself doesn't look to be that bad though. 3.4% for six decks given the 12-6-4-1 paytable w/30 to 1 bonus for trips. But I agree it's not as easy to evaluate as some other side bets.
     
  18. Big Tip

    Big Tip VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,713
    Location:
    Austin
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    67
    Not only is it a 6/5, it looks like it's a 10 deck shoe too. I have seen a 10 deck at Bill's.

    So those hoping for a revolutionary new market strategy, as in offering a good gamble, can keep hoping and looking.

    My distaste for Harrahs continues.

    And did anyone else notice that the guy doubled his 13 vs. dealer's 10 (or 9)? Perhaps that was a staged photo, huh?
     
  19. flamingogo

    flamingogo Tourist

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    91
    Location:
    NYC
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    11
    To me it looks like 8, possibly even 6. Did they really have 10-deck shoes? Holy god.

    I think they took the pic after he was paid, not a double, which is why the third card isn't placed horizontally.
     
  20. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    9,887
    Location:
    Missouri
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    15
    I think this. And they're like wait, he has a 6-7-8 21, lets take a pic of his win.
     
Tags:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.