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Table Games Craps - Placing odds

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Dr3aMCaster, Aug 21, 2014.

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  1. Dr3aMCaster

    Dr3aMCaster Tourist

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    Just wondering if casinos allow placing odds on your pass and come bets?

    If yes, do you place odds bets on them?

    Also, do they have fire bets (making at least 3 different points before crapping out)?
     
  2. newmans

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    I think all CET casinos in Vegas are 3,4,5x odds for passline bets.
    Yes, I always play full odds.
    Yes, there are fire bets ($1 - $10).
    4 points pay 25:1
    5 points pay 250:1
    6 points pay 1000:1
    3 points pay nothing
     
  3. Dr3aMCaster

    Dr3aMCaster Tourist

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    Awesome, thanks newmans for the information. Super excited. Probably going to play thursday night after landing now :).
     
  4. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    3,4,5X is the strip standard (there are a few exceptions). Downtown and off strip seem to be all over the place, though. Here’s the Wizard of Odd’s craps survey. It doesn’t get updated all that often, but I think it’s usually pretty accurate.

    http://wizardofvegas.com/guides/craps-survey/

    And I do always take full odds (at least when it's 3-4-5X).
     
  5. Ty

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    Speaking of odds bets, if you're playing the Don't where do you place the Don't Pass odds?
     
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  6. Dr3aMCaster

    Dr3aMCaster Tourist

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    Beside your don't pass bet
     
  7. Hobofrank

    Hobofrank Prime Minister of Idiocracy

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    behind actually and you "Lay" wrong bet odds
     
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    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    You put your odds bet next to your Don't bet, away from the stick man. So it depends on which side of the stick man you are at the table.
    if you have a stack of chips for your odds, you need to tilt the stack on top of the bottom chip, away from the stick man.

    But just give the chips to the dealer and have him/her put the chips on the table for you, and you will see how it is done.

    Once, I was so tired, that I started to put my odds on the Pass line as if it were the Don't Pass, and got a chuckle out of the dealers.
     
  9. wrxrob

    wrxrob High-Roller

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    For the fire bet, remember the payouts are for SEPARATE points. If you keep repeating points (i.e. 6 & 8) over and over, it doesn't pay until you have rolled at least 4 SEPARATE numbers as points.

    The only time I ever came close, I had rolled every point on the table, except for the 8. Finally, when the 8 was the point, I immediately sevened out. Still 5 out of 6 isn't bad. Too bad I wasn't playing the fire. Now I play it every time that I shoot for $1, if available. I've never seen anyone hit all six points, but I know it happens frequently enough.
     
  10. newmans

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    I hit a 6 number fire bet twice last year. Once was so quick, no one had pressed up their bets very much. The other time, the shooter could have gone around a second time.
    No such luck this year.
    I think the dealers told me a 6number fire happens about twice a week.
     
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    I've hit a few fives and fours, never a six. My home casino max is $5, but I also play $1 for the house.
     
  12. Dr3aMCaster

    Dr3aMCaster Tourist

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    Just wanted to say that I played Luxor, Mirage and LVH and neither of them had firebets on their table. Asked the stickman and he said they removed it years ago.

    Despite that, I probably made 800 on the craps tables alone for the 5 days I was there.
     
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    MGM casinos have the "all" bets.
    CET casinos have the "fire bet."

    Both are long shot bets based on hitting certain numbers before hitting a seven.
     
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    What does the all bet pay?
     
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    There are three of them. The All, The All Small, and The All Tall.

    IIRC, the tall and small pay 35 to 1 and the All pays 175 to 1.

    More info about those type of bets here: http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/5/
     
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    i saw the "all bets" last week at MGM casinos.
    when i remember correct, the half all (2,3,4,5,6 or 8,9,10,11,12) pays 35:1
    and the "complete" all bet pays 167:1 (not 100% sure)
    i didnt play the all bets, but a lot of guys played it. the half only hit once in 10 hours that i played. it busted often on the last number.
     
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    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    If you make this bet in the future, and only have one number left to hit, then remember you can Lay the number, i.e. bet against the number, as a hedge.
    For example, if all you need is a "9" to make the All bet, and let's say you have $10 on the All bet, so if the 9 hits, you would win $1,760.
    Then you could Lay the "9" for $1,050, so you would win either $710 if the "9" hits, or $690 if the "7" comes up.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder if a similar bet would work well for a fire bet. Maybe on the 5th or 6th number?
     
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    Yes, I've seen people hedge 6th number, but never the 5th.
    Also.....it seems like the 6th number is always an inside number....never a 4 or 10.
     
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    Yep... on the "all bets" it only works for place numbers though. If the last number is <4 or >10, there's no good way to hedge. In my experience, this is normally the case.
     
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