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Craps - Is there a trick that people use to get more TC's?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by CaliWes, Apr 20, 2015.

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  1. CaliWes

    CaliWes Tourist

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    My game of choice is Craps. I only play other games when my GF wants to sit down together and play, however I usually play around 10+hrs of craps per gambling day.

    I've seen acouple times now old guys that play craps in a very odd way and they are 7*'s. I'm wondering if they are 7*'s because of the odd way they play and they really arent putting much at risk.

    Basically a guy will buy in with acouple grand and place bet maybe $300 on the inside and not playing the pass line. Then the next roll they will take it down weither they hit it or not and then wait acouple more rolls and then replace again only for one roll. So annoying!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm wondering if the PB is counting them at a higher level then they really should be?

    I usually dont play the pass line either but I'll place $100 on the outside and full press the first couple hits and then start half pressing. I usually only come out ahead 1 out of 10 times but based on this play I've been doing really good over the past 6 months. When its a good roll even tho I've started off at $100 on the outside I'll have about $1k placed on every number.

    I want to know if you all think that the way the Old guys are playing is getting them more TC's then the normal way of playing craps? I would never change to their way of playing because its boring as hell and slows the game down to a crawl, but I just wanted to know what you all thought. The way I play has gotten me alittle over 100k TC's in 4 trips at CET TR casinos, but more importantly I'm way up.
     
  2. sevenyo11

    sevenyo11 Low-Roller

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    The PB isn't going to bother to make any changes to the rating card of the player. I am sure when they cash out they keep them as $300 a bet for however long they are at the table. I would guess playing on a crowded table slows everything down thus stretching your play longer. Not sure if CET uses the fact if the table is crowded or not. Remember its what your initial bet is not how much you pressed up to that they are rating.
     
  3. Jordan

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    Perhaps they are 7 * from other play. I know for instance I'm primarily a SLUT player, so when I throw my 7 * card on the table with my $500 buy and ask for greens and reds on a craps table, some people look at me like "it must take you forever to get to 7 * ", what they don't see is the 25-50k coin in I just ran through in HL sluts before I came to the table.
     
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    I don't think that's true. I usually start with about $125 on the table. I'll press on every roll. I have asked the PB what he had my average bet after a shooter with a long run and I've been told that I'm rated at $500-$600.
     
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    I would think they have them rated as a $300 player, and you as a $100 player (they SELDOM count "pressing" into your average)
     
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    I would agree with some people getting most of their TC's at another game like slots and the such, but this is such a super odd way of playing it seems to me like they are really just doing it for the TC's and not for the gambling/money making. When I come to think of it craps is one of the only games you can do this because all the rest are a one time bet but craps is a series of bets that usually stay for multiple turns.
     
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    See and thats so odd because I've watched them and they win no more then acouple hundered ahead and acouple hundered down. I've been as much as $10k down in a session and up well over that. So basically again this is one of the only games you can try to work the system on to get TC's and put little to nothing at risk.
     
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    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    No one on this board

    would know anything about that...
     
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    Hobofrank Prime Minister of Idiocracy

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    you mean like pooling your session BR's and one person betting Wrong and the other play Pass?
    who on earth would do something like that?
     
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    Man.... this is interesting..
     
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    It was definitely interesting when they did this on an episode of Las Vegas :)

    Man I miss that show
     
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    I miss nicki cox.... but never really watched the show.
     
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    I have seen a guy do this.Place bets on and off every couple rolls and then ask the PB what his rating was.
    I was half of what he wanted but the PB said "you were only playing half the time"
     
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    Still a negative expectation game as the 12 is the killer coming out.Pass loses and Don't pushes.
     
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    How much into the negative is this? Just curious about the numbers of a "team" of two-one don't and one pass player.

    How long would you have to do this and at what initial bet to make any of the higher tiers? Say even basic diamond @CET without the aspirations level?
     
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    Why bother with a team?

    Just play both sides yourself!

    Brilliant!
     
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    Landshark Way into it...

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    Negative expetation on how many rolls? Millions? Do you have enouph rolls in your lifetime to see that? No. So bet reallisitcally.
     
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    ok, so, then answer to the second part of the question: each player $100 each for 2x2 hour sessions a day for 3 days will get you..?? or does it need to be more like $300 each for 8 hours a day total? or are we talking much much more?
     
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    http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/

    Scroll down to "Hands per Hour, House Edge for Comp Purposes" and it will give you the details you want to know.
     
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