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Table Games Craps discount rolling program

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by natedog666, Mar 19, 2015.

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  1. natedog666

    natedog666 17 and 20 Expert

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    Here's one for all the math wizards out there. I'm here at MBS in Singapore, and they are discounting my craps action with a rolling program. Highest limits I've ever heard of too 50k.

    The way it works is no discount on odds obviously, but on every other winning bet on the table. So for instance every winning bet on a place bet on the six, I get 1.2% cash discount.

    I've realized that you can roll through quite a lot, on a two hour session today I'm already at 1.3m, so you will get back 1.2% of that in cash. There's also a .1% in comps for the room and board.

    Which bets are the "relative" best on the craps table then? Should I still go with come bets since the odds aren't discounted or just do place bets?

    It makes for a fairly big mess on the rail keeping track of two colors of chips for every denomination, and pressing has to be done manually since they pay you in different color chips then what you are betting....pretty cool system though.
     
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    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    nice.

    place the 6 and 8 all day long.

    1.2% back turns it into a positive expectation.

    even the 5 and 9 turn slightly positive.
     
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    natedog666 17 and 20 Expert

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    Actually I don't think it makes the place bets positive expectation, but certainly reduces the 6 and 8 by a lot. Also remember that it is only when you win do you get the rolling chips, so probably doesn't reduce the house edge by the full 1.2%, maybe by 0.6%.
     
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    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    yeah, that's true.

    so it probably isn't as significant as I thought.

    still a nice bonus.
     
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    Hobofrank Prime Minister of Idiocracy

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    Place 6&8 all day long because you can take them down if/when it gets cold
     
  6. La$Vega$

    La$Vega$ Low-Roller

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    Indeed you can roll through quite a lot and when you consider what your average action is on the felt for X amount of rolls, it can be fairly significant.
    Sounds like a great system and hopefully it will catch on here in the states!

    Ditto what Shifter & Frank said.

    How about some Singapore photos Dog!?!
     
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