Merry Christmas fellow VMB'ers!! Hope you're all having a good one! Last night I decided I needed some solo time before all the requisite holiday activities, so I hit up the Horseshoe Council Bluffs for gambling, hot tub, and a free room that somebody made the bed for me While there - I cruised by the craps tables. One was hopping....really hopping. A Vietnamese gentleman had roughy 30,000 in his rack and was betting wildly - using a strategy I've never witnessed. I watched him for roughly 40 minutes...of which a guy rolled for 30 of it. In the end, the man hit 5 unique points, triggering the fire bet payout of 250-1. 2 players had $25 on the fire bet. A nice $6250 bonus for each guy. Here's his method.... Place bet 4 numbers with 50-1 odds and 100-1 odds on the pass line. So he would do $10 with 500 odds on 4 of the 5 non points. $10 with $1000 odds on the point. When a non point would hit, he'd press to full odds. Nothing unusual yet....but...here's what I don't get. He'd put 200 on each hard way. But then he'd flip the stick a purple chip - spreading it between the hop bets and the horn. The entire $500 got spent, nothing in return. This appeared to be very costly to him - many times the wins would simply cancel out the losing bets. He did have a stretch of yo 11s that this worked on tho. Again - it's a poor story. I was two deep at the table, and the stick man was very efficient at the payouts. So not easy to follow. He always had between 1300-2000 rolling in the middle of the table, and many of them were one roll wagers obviously. Lots of money flying around. Anyone know what the hell he was doing?? When I left, the shooter 7 out and the guy had over 50000 in his rack. He was getting ready to play the next shooter. Which - strangle enough, he never made a pass line bet until the point was established. I came back later and he was gone - wonder how it turned out??? I didn't ask the crew. On that note - I was impressed. The crew never rotated out during the hot streak. Help arrived, but never tapped in. Just stood back and watched. Thanks for any ideas.