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Table Games Crapless Craps

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by diceman54, Jan 12, 2014.

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  1. diceman54

    diceman54 Newbie

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    Does anyone know if there are any casinos on or off strip that have crapless craps? There are a few of the Tunica casinos that have those type tables and we enjoy playing at them for a change of pace.
     
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    Pretty sure the Stratatosphere and The Plaza do...
     
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    We will have to meet up in Tunica for some crapless some day. I enjoy playing it as well if not more than regular craps. It also has the hidden advantage of no darkside..

    Joe K
     
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    As Red & Black mentioned, I believe The Strat does.

    I played in a few years ago and it was interesting to say the least. I may take a look in a couple weeks to see if it is there and make a small run at it for fun.
     
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    Yep, that's it as far as I know. Stratosphere is a better game because they will allow you to split a $1 vig to buy two or more numbers. For one buck, you can buy 2, 3, 11,and 12 for five dollars each assuming table min is $5 of course.

    Plaza will not let you do this.
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    That has to be much better than the horrible pass line wager on this game. Winning on 11 is a good thing!
     
  7. diceman54

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    Thanks for the info. I do remember years ago on an earlier trip to Vegas that we played crapless at the stratosphere.

    Joe we had some really good sessions last year at the crapless table at the fitz. Unfortunately after taking a 200,000 loss at that table on July 4th they took it out and replaced it with a regular table. Btw, I post on the tunica board as diceman also. That boards been pretty dead lately. A lot more going on with this board.
     
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    The Strat has had it since the Stupak days of Vegas World.
     
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    Bungadin Low-Roller

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    The Las Vegas Club has a table.

    What are the payouts on the 2, 3, 11 and 12 if they are the Point?
     

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    Unless the game was unpopular, likely a short sighted move by mgmt. Maybe they offered the 2, 3, 11, 12 for one dollar vig too?

    Fair odds, which is 6 to 1 on 2,12 and 3 to 1 on 3,11. First time I played this game i rolled a 3. I didn't make the point...lol
     
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    Thanks.

    I should have known that since it's "true odds" with six ways to make a 7 and one way to make a 2 or 12 thus 6:1.

    Sometimes you don't see the woods with all the trees in the way.
     
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    The Wizard of Odds might have the answer you need on it. If I remember correctly the odds were obviously high ( a healthy house advantage) from what the payouts should be.
     
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    You are right on the pass/don't pass it is about 5.32% HA. I usually place the point and make place bets and in Tunica they buy the 2-3-4-5-9-10-11-12 and the vig is only paid on winning bets so I believe that these bets when placed are in the 1.25% or less or less HA range per wizard of odds http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/5/#craplesscraps
     
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    You are right on the odds at Tunica and yes it probably was a bad move by the Fitz to take out the crapless table.

    We plan on trying the crapless table at the strat while we're in Vegas in February.
     
  15. woodsie

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    Nope, pass line is still better according to the Wizard but only slightly. Pass line is 5.382% and Buy 2,3,11,12 are 4.7619%.

    Still lots of fun though. The volatility can be through the roof in crapless craps. A hot roll on crapless craps can get crazy good real quick. Of course, bad rolls can suck the wind out of you quick.
     
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