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Cosmo Comps

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Countessa, Aug 7, 2012.

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  1. Countessa

    Countessa Tourist

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    I recently stayed at Cosmo and earned 3k points. Since there is no way to check offers for Cosmo online I'm wondering if anyone with experience has an idea of if that will grant me any room offers?
     
  2. Kimsa70

    Kimsa70 High-Roller

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    Countessa - I've never stayed at Cosmo, but when I stayed Bellagio in May, I played a bit at Cosmo over 2 days and earned about 9000 points, which equates to $90.00 in comps and 9k coin in of play. Since May, I've gotten a few offers. The first was for 2 comp nights. The second was for 3 nights and a slot tournament. The third offer was for 2 nights in a suite and $150 Identity plan. These offers are nowhere near the level of offers I've gotten from MGM properties. I might double book Cosmo over one of my upcoming trips. Maybe some other folks will chime in who have similar play at Cosmo.
     
  3. r00k13

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    Try calling their VIP Line to see if there are any offers available. I think average about 30000 points each trip there and I get 3 free nights and 300 dine credit and some tourney invite our site tickets. The host usually give me more like a nice suite if you ask to speak with one.
     
  4. CreditRocks

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    I'm not sure if 3K will grant you any room offers since it will take you 7 trips to get to gold. I'm sure you can get comped a bit though, ask a host! :)
     
  5. 777

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    I don't mean to hijack your thread. I may give cosmo a shot during my upcoming trip. I may stop by play a couple hours of blackjack at 200-300 a hand, what kind of comp would I expect to receive?
     
  6. skye88

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    3K points during a single trip might be a bit on the low side for comps. How many nights did you end up staying during your previous trip ? Average of at least 2K - 3K points a day will likely get you comp based on my experience. Give Identity a call and check if you can discounted room rates perhaps.
     
  7. Outsider

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    Countessa, we just got back, about a week ago, from a two night Sun-Thur comp offer that they emailed a few months after playing there. I played there twice for max of about 2hrs risking $300 or $400 each time; I think I busted out once and won a $100 on the second time. I really don’t recall how many points I earned, as we go to several establishments and that sort of detail seems to run together.

    Anyway, the room was nice, the email comp worked, and I made a phone reservation. Upon check out, I inquired about having some food charges taken off, and the host told me that it took 48hrs to post my total play. Hmm… I wasn’t going to wait 48hrs in the lobby, so I deferred.
     
  8. Countessa

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    It's been about a month now since staying there. It was 3 nights that we stayed and paid full price the first go around with no comps or offers. I know 3k points isn't much & I'm already GOLD since they matched my Diamond card last year but was hoping they might throw me a bone. Guess you never know with Cosmo so I'll just wait and see.
     
  9. Max2589

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    I was going to start a new thread but hoping I can get some answers here.

    Some bak round info:
    The last few trips to Vegas have all been Cosmo. I was comped a suite at caesars but moved to the cosmo the next day on a casino rate. My play wasn't anything great and I had a great time. I called several months later to reservations and found out I was assigned a host. I have since stayed 4 times. My average bankroll for a weekend is between 3-8k. My host has been great. I email him for a room get back a confirmation, generally a terrace one bedroom. I was even comped rooms for friends who have joined me.
    On my last trip I had earned platinum and have about 600 dollars in identity points. They had me at 420 avg bet on roulette for 19 hours in. 3 days. I generally break even but did make 10k on one visit.

    My question:
    I have never discussed comps with my host, ever. Sure the room is comped up front. Airport limos and even limo use, never a problem as I've just called VIP services. Other then that, I rarely spend any money at property as I like to get out. I think my folio had 84 dollars in charges after a 3 night stay. I'm at the point where I'd like to take advantage of any comps that I may be earning. However, I don't want to run up heavy room charges to be stuck with a bill at checkout. I see everyone talking about RFB, RFL, etc. How do I know what to expect and how do I approach this with my host? I feel slightly awkward asking about his for some reason.

    Again, the cosmo has been real good to me and I don't want to come off as greedy or a pain In he butt. I just want to know if I can eat some steaks and drink some wine on the house. What's my play here?
     
  10. Max2589

    Max2589 Low-Roller

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    leaving to vegas in 12 hours. anyone care to chime in?
     
  11. Tubbs

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    I'm no expert on roulette comps, but let's start with the understanding that the house edge for roulette is higher than some other table games, even if you are playing at a single zero table.

    Your last trip you averaged a little over 6 hours a day at $420 a spin. You probably realise that you are being seriously undercomped if all you get is a room at Cosmo (not even a Terrace or Wraparound Suite). It's your choice where you eat but there is no reason why all your food and beverage costs at Cosmo should not be picked up by your host.

    You sound like a host's dream! You play way more than is required for the comp you receive and do not have any other costs that the host can even assess.

    You can be as subtle about this as you want. You could just charge to your room and get your host to look at your charges before you checkout. Or you can have a conversation with your host after you arrive, let them know that you intend to eat at the hotel this trip and ask them what they can do for you. That would be my approach.

    Perhaps some roulette players can contribute but I would say that if $400+ a spin for 6+ hours a day is your usual play then you could get a nice suite and all the food & drink you want (within reason on the super expensive wines) at any of the top hotels in Vegas. Once you are established somewhere I would expect you to be coming in on RFB offers.
     
  12. Kimsa70

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    I'd ask your host if you have food and beverage comps. If they're willing to give you a free extra room, I'd suspect 300 - 500 of steak and drinks wouldn't be a problem?

    I'll be there this weekend, too!
     
  13. DRich2

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    Roulette comps

    At $420 a spin at roulette, if we estimate 20 spins per hour, you are betting $8,400 an hour. If you play an average of 6 hours per day you are wagering about $50,400 a day.

    It is reasonable to expect up to 40% of your theoretical loss to be returned in comps.

    Your theoretical loss is $50,400 x 0.0525 (house edge) which = $2,646 a day. You could reasonably expect to get about $1,058 a day in comps.
     
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    I played at Cosmo for a couple of hours in February and it shows me to have 1,000 points and for a couple months after that I was getting offers for two free nights.
     
  15. r00k13

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    What is your secret in betting that much and not losing big on any trips ? Do you play inside? I'm surprised with a bankroll from 3-8k per trip you have so much success with that high average. Real lucky. Keep up the streak.
     
  16. numeno

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    At $420/spin, I hope they are playing on a single zero wheel. If that is the case, those numbers would be halved.

    Either way though, you are seriously being undercomped. I'm not sure how they value the rooms, but somewhere between $100-200/day for food would not be unreasonable. You should be able to ask about this before you go eat out as well. This is a question the host probably gets a lot every day so don't think you will be seen as greedy. They will be honest in what they are able to do for you.

    Being greedy is having the host say they will cover all meals and then going out and spending $1500/day on food just because you think it is all covered.
     
  17. BeeeJay

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    I think they base the calculation on a higher number of spins per hour than 20.
     
  18. Max2589

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    Quick trip report:
    I had no conversation with my host prior to check out. My entire bill of nearly $800 bucks was fully comped off the bill. It included some burgers, a nice dinner w my girlfriend and some drinks at the clubs. This trip I only played 7.4 hours in two days at an average at $300 per spin. With my 8k bankroll, I was never in the red more then 3k and walked out with around 5k and change more then I came with. I was up nearly 7k but I pressed my luck with a couple spins playing $500 chips inside. All and all a good trip. I also have over $1,000 worth of identity points I have never used. I plan to go back soon.

    However, I do plan to have a talk with my host so he can explain to me exactly what I should expect comp wise. Thanks all. However, I am getting bored at the cosmo restaurants. Will they comp me meals at other hotels?
    Thanks
     
  19. Max2589

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    Also, does anyone know what type of comps I can get at other casinos. I am interested in any other higher end property. I have only stayed at Paris, Rio and Ceasesrs all on TR comps. However, I am not interested in that crap.
     
  20. Max2589

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    Sorry to keep this going but I wanted to answer some of your questions.
    I just play aggressive and hope for the best. After all, it is a mindless game of luck that I for some reason find entertaining. I will usually play with increments of 1-2k in chips and have no issue laying out 20% of my stack across the board in one spin. I only play the double zero wheel in the main casinos. I am aware the house advantage but I only play inside numbers and I like to play the zeros as well so it doesnt bother me. The only single zero wheel is in the high limit room which I don't really care for. I would rather mingle with the common folk like myself. While there have been some trips where I have lost a bit, I have certainly come out ahead so far this year. No risk, no reward.

    Question:
    Lets say my theo is 10,000 and fair comps would be 3,000. If I only spend 1,000 in room charges that gets comped. Does that have any bearing on useable comps on my next trip? or it always use it or lose it?
     
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