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Comps drying up, why?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by bluerider, Oct 15, 2012.

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  1. bluerider

    bluerider Low-Roller

    Aug 28, 2011
    The Great Lakes
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    It started with an annual trip with the boys, which is still going. It is now a visit 3 times per year, and has been that way for the last 3 years...once with the boys, once with my g/f and one solo trip.

    I've progressively gotten better offers over this time frame, as my bankroll has grown, and so has my play, slightly. It started as discounted rooms, and slowly morphed into comped rooms, at both CET and Mlife properties.

    I play mostly VP (.25-$1), Craps ($5-$25 tables), and Poker (mostly NL Holdem Tourneys ~$100, or 1-2 NL).

    I've caught a lucky amount of royals and quads, had some crazy heaters at craps, and have done pretty well in poker tourneys over the last 10 trips or so. Paid for the trip every time, turned a small profit a few times, and a nice BIG profit a few others. No Lie!

    My last trip in early Sept was the first in a while that I couldn't find a comp offer for. Neither CET or Mlife was giving me a free room. They both offered discounts, but no comps. This is after receiving at least a night or two comped each trip, at both company properties for the last 2-3 years.

    I've now been back from that last trip (with the boys) for about 5 weeks, and my offers are the worst they've ever been. Though, I feel like I played longer and higher than I ever have. Less poker, more vp. Less quarters, more dollars. Less $10 craps, more $25 craps. My average gaming budget is now in the $500 per day range, depending on the trip, etc. I always use my card. But here's the thing: I've been really friggin lucky. I keep winning!!!

    So I ask, as my rates rise and comps seem to dry up...Is it possible that my offers are decreasing because I keep winning?

    I'd love to continue the 3 trips per year, but the lack of comps and decreased discounts is becoming unattractive.

    I'm no high roller, but do I need a host? Would that help?
  2. LAV

    LAV Tourist

    Apr 3, 2011
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Most unlikely due to your winning. Even if you are winning consistently, it does not sound like any crazy amount.

    Not sure about the particulars, but here are possible reasons:

    1. You used more comp value than your play justify. For example, the "price" of the room is factored in, even if you are comped. If you are using a lot of points to cover charges, that counts toward your future offers as well.

    2. While you play at a higher average, you may not be concentrating all in one property at MGM properties. You might be switching properties, etc.

    3. The casinos are getting more and more stingy with their comps.

    4. Your recent play has not "hit" the marketing folks yet. I have observed that my offers many times are based on my play between 3 and 5 months previously. So, your recent stronger play may not hit till later.

    5. The offers you received before were "teaser" offers to bring you back, but they soon realized that you are not showing as strong action as they had hoped.

    In summary, I would like to suggest that your frequent winnings have less to do with the offers you are currently getting than some of the factors mentioned above. I know many who win frequently and their offers don't dwindle. In fact, perhaps UKFanatic can chime in on his recent winning streaks, and he has not stated that his offers have gotten less.
  3. jgates8

    jgates8 VIP Whale

    Jun 25, 2007
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    One other factor is just given occupancy levels at any time during a month. You may be looking at conference or high occupancy dates. Even though I could get comps at a ton of CET props on NYEve - there were several weekends last October that I could only get them at Harrahs & IP - not even where my play was concentrated. Charges at all other CET hotels. High Occupancy!
  4. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

    Jul 11, 2010
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Agreed. Sometimes there's just a conference or something going on in town that you're not aware of that impacts room rates and comps.
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  5. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

    Sep 15, 2010
    At the tables
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    probably mostly due to the overall reduction of comps across the board as the economy improves and the casinos don't feel they need to give away as much to get people to come.
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