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Comp Noob

Discussion in 'Comps' started by snapfc01, Sep 23, 2012.

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  1. snapfc01

    snapfc01 Tourist

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    I have a couple basic questions regarding comps. I have been to Vegas several times but most of them were while I was in my early 20s and relatively broke (I'm still in my 20s) so I didn't play too much.

    I now have a little more money I can take on my trips and wanted to see what type of play I need to have in order to get comped rooms for future trips. I mostly play craps, black jack and some slots/vp. At this point I would be happy with comped rooms but I wouldn't mind thoughts on how much play would get me some comped meals as well.

    I don't have a "home" casino so I am open to thoughts on what places are the best to play at.

    I know this is a pretty vague question but any estimates would be helpful.
     
  2. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    All depends on what you play. I think the general consensus is that if you play table games, you will get better comps from MGM. If you play slots, you will get better comps from CET. Of course, I'm talking Strip only. If you prefer downtown, I don't know which places are best
     
  3. snapfc01

    snapfc01 Tourist

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    I should have clarified. I am interested in places on the strip. I will be going in March and want to get an idea how much I need to play thru to get future offers (I am ok with offers to basic hotels). I'm planning on bringing about 2500 with me for gambling. Is it reasonable to think that I can get comped rooms while playing 10 or 15 blackjack/craps or low limit slots/vp?
     
  4. SH0CK

    SH0CK Stylin' and Profilin' Quasi Tech Admin

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    MGM properties have just about all said that they couldn't rate me unless I was playing AT LEAST $25 a hand at blackjack or pai gow. I know CET properties will rate you at lower, but you aren't likely to be rated very well unless you play for 8+ hours at a time at the tables.

    As for slots/vp, that is more a rate of how many points you can accumulate at a time.
     
  5. Auggie

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    Just to mention: you can also get comps on that trip if you are booking directly with the hotel.

    If you have the room charges or things you have charged to the room (IE: dinner, drinks) you can stop by the casino's player club booth before you check out and they will review your play to determine if you can get any charges taken off.

    With low limit slots and VP, most definitely. My wife and I play mostly penny slots and I play some low limit VP as well and we've gotten offers for suites, food credit and hundreds of dollars in free play.

    That also goes in to table games: it really depends on how long you play. If you are playing a penny slot machine at 30 cents a spin for 12 hours you should get some kind of offer from them... if you are playing blackjack at $10-15 per hand you can get comps as well, you just need to put in a lot of time at the tables (where a $100 blackjack player can probably get a nice room comp after 3-4 hours of play, at the $15 level you might need 8-10+ hours of play in a day to get something).


    Not get in to too many specifics but the big thing here is: with MGM and MLife you really need to concentrate your play at one property to get good offers from them. But on the same note you need to be realistic: if you are betting $15 a hand at blackjack and going to play for 8 hours that might get you offers from MGM, NYNY, Luxor, Excalibur... but its not likely to get you anything from Mirage or Bellagio.

    With Total Rewards and the CET properties they do seem to go after slot players over table games players... MGM properties seem to go almost equally after both, but remember: everybody loves a slot player :)

    For your budget: you can afford to play around a little at different properties and within different loyalty programs. What I would do is look towards concentrating your play on each day within a certain casino chain... like if you start off the day playing slots at Caesars Palace then stick within the Total Rewards family of casinos that day, don't hit up Caesars and then go next door to Mirage, then Ti and then Venetian.
     
  6. mmikeee

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    if you go to the player club booth and ask for comps and you qualify for some, will they take them off of your reward credits?? Or will they comp and still leave those reward credits on your account?
     
  7. earth-3

    earth-3 High-Roller

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    You stated "future offers" in your post, the answer to that is: Probably. It seems like initial offers are sent to many low rollers the first time around. It's recommended that your bankroll should be 40 units per session. At $25 per hand, you could play one session a day for almost a 3 day stay. 3k would be ideal. That will get you some future offers, especially if you stay at the lower tier properties.
     
  8. Llew

    Llew Low-Roller

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    As stated above, play at least $25/hand and play all at one chain. MGM/Mlife is your best bet, since you like table games. Free rooms might be a stretch at $25/hand unless you are playing all day - but you can easily get buffet comps.

    You definitely won't be able to get free rooms in the upper tier properties - Mirage, Mandalay Bay, Aria, Bellagio. Those are typically $100-$150/hand x 4hrs/day.

    Luxor and Excalibur are the easiest to get comped at, but their blackjack rules aren't any good below $100/hand.

    Monte Carlo and NYNY are slightly harder to get comped at, and their blackjack rules aren't much different at that level.

    MGM Grand might be your best bet, since they offer a S17 shoe game at $25 (usually) and aren't counted among the premium properties. However, it's still going to take a lot of hours/day at $25/hand to get free rooms.

    Free buffets and the casino rate should be easily doable, though.
     
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    You will get both answers to this:
    YES THEY DO
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    NO THEY DON'T

    Last time I stayed at Harrah's they took all my RCs and comped stuff off my bill... but the last time I stayed at Flamingo they comped everything off my bill and left me all my RCs.

    And the same thing has happened at MGM properties (Monte Carlo and Aria) where one took my Express Comps and applied additional comps, the other one just comped me everything and left me a bunch of Express Comps.


    For me I don't really care too much about it: if they take them all I am fine with that, if they don't then if its MLife I will save them for the next trip, if its Total Rewards then I will go to the gift shop and buy a bunch of crap I don't really want because I'd rather bring a souvenir or two home for my niece than just let them expire.
     
  10. mike_m235

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    You can get offers playing craps at those levels at some of the lower end MGM properties. The offers won't be great -- but you'll see some free rooms.
     
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